Greyscale printing help

[tonyt79]

I guess my customer and I do not agree on what would be greyscale. We are looking at doing a texas flag in greyscale. My first toughts were to print it black,grey, and white, but the customer doesn't want any black. I made a sample with halftones (80%, 55%, 30% black) the contrast was good but the customer thought it looked to much like a newspaper. They want 3 different greys solid. I am not sure how to go about this without alot of trial and error. I thought about manipulating the underbase, but the greys dont seem to be affected by the underbase besides just making the print smoother. Any ideas?

[mimosatexas]

If they want specific grays, I would bring a flag into photoshop, hit grayscale, eyedropper each section and get the pantone, show them the book, charge them for the custom mix, and shake your head when it doesnt look as good as black/gray/white.

[Sbrem]

What's the shirt color? And, don't let the customer tell you how to print, just wow them. This image is 2 Whites (one under the red, the other in the grayscale), Gray and Red. the face is gray first, white second.

Steve

[ravenmark]

2 ideas, Vector it by hand. If it is a photo, mess with the levels turning adjusting the black to about a cool grey 11 shade and index it. Or do the same and run a vector trace. Totally depends on the look they are wanting.

[Sbrem]

Sorry, here's a photo of the real print... (iPhone photo a bit brighter than real life)

Steve

[Colin]

Can you post a jpeg of what the flag looks like?

It will help a lot with suggestions.

[tonyt79]

the problem is that it is not a true picture. It is a Texas Flag. Attached is a color image of what they are looking for.

[tonyt79]

here is how i did it for the test print. The darker color doesnt look real smooth in the picture.

[mimosatexas]

Only real question I have is why is the white in the flag not white?  As for the other colors, they would work for me and look like half a dozen similar texas flag and american flag grayscale prints I have done.  What exactly do they want?

[tonyt79]

They are wanting 3 greys, no black no white. That was not my initial thoughts but came up when sending over a digital proof.   I told them I thought it would look best black grey white and I think I am going to back to that conversation with them.

[Frog]

Like was mentioned, three spot colors if he doesn't want "dots"
Show him your stock grays, or/and whip out the Pantone book and charge accordingly.

[3Deep]

When customer's tell me how to do my job I charrrgge them for it, with a smile on my face

[kingscreen]

What about this?

White = Cool Grey 4
Red =  Cool Grey 7
Navy - Cool Grey 11

All spot.

[tonyt79]

What about this?

White = Cool Grey 4
Red =  Cool Grey 7
Navy - Cool Grey 11

All spot.

Talked with them and think we are going with
White= white
red= light grey
Blue= dark grey
Standard wilflex colors
On a Navy shirt. Still think black,grey, white would be the way to go. I don't think the dark grey will be dark enough. But oh well

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[LoneWolf2]

Sometimes you just can't fix stupid.