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Quote from: bulldog on December 30, 2015, 01:38:47 PMThat's a damn good print on a G200. Both sellable for sure. Thanks for the info Shelly, hope you feel better.How many grams (or ML) of pretreat are you laying down and what is the area you are spraying (like 14x18)?Both sell-able prints for sure, id say both are great prints. The test proves is that the Brother is using more ink. I believe she picked this design randomly and we have not run it on either machine prior to this. So it was a even Steven test at least until someone starts objecting about swamp gas refracting light off Venus making Pluto release toxic laser beams that made the M&R use less ink. I am sure even this test wont be enough for some and we will need to bring in Nasa to measure the PSI used per print nozzle and weigh the ink at the atom level. I dunno folks. Take it for what it is, we've tested these things as even as we know how. I find them both to be good machines, but they are different. Period.
That's a damn good print on a G200. Both sellable for sure. Thanks for the info Shelly, hope you feel better.How many grams (or ML) of pretreat are you laying down and what is the area you are spraying (like 14x18)?
Brandt, what brand of pretreat are you using?
Quote from: bulldog on December 31, 2015, 11:47:38 AMBrandt, what brand of pretreat are you using?Brother for Brother, M&R for M&R.
Quote from: GraphicDisorder on January 01, 2016, 07:12:21 AMQuote from: bulldog on December 31, 2015, 11:47:38 AMBrandt, what brand of pretreat are you using?Brother for Brother, M&R for M&R.Have you tried printing out just a block of white like 5"x5" on a Gildan? I can lay down a pretty good full color print on a Gildan but if I'm doing a white block test it shows some pitting. Still experimenting with pre-treat variables but wondering if you've done anything similar and what results were? I also know I could be pissing in the wind with the Gildans.
if brother is coming on monday, I assume/am hoping that you're going to leave the machine in a non-powered up state until they arrive, so they can go through the monday morning pain with you or your staff and tell you if/what you're doing wrong?
So the ink chemistry is similar and the brother lays down more white and looks worse. Is it possible that the pretreat is contributing to the difference? I know nothing about DTG so maybe it is not possible but have you tried swapping the pretreats to see if that changes the print results?
Quote from: ScreenPrinter123 on January 03, 2016, 09:55:41 AMSo the ink chemistry is similar and the brother lays down more white and looks worse. Is it possible that the pretreat is contributing to the difference? I know nothing about DTG so maybe it is not possible but have you tried swapping the pretreats to see if that changes the print results?Each machine has its own pretreat. We've used both with each other just to see how they react. Both machines print worse with the others pretreat. I'm going to assume each recommend using their own version of pretreat so we'd like to stick with that for now as we learn. Also remember it seems with our testing the Brother ink has more water or carrier fluid in its ink. So while its laying down more cc a higher percentage of it is evaporating in the heat pressing process. But that does mean higher costs as your using higher volume of more expensive ink.
I see you have the Brother listed for sale. The Mlink wins!