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Offline Scobey Peterman

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VELUM
« on: October 07, 2015, 01:03:02 PM »
Who makes velum that does not shrink when run through a lazer printer??

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 01:10:01 PM »
Infinite Black  - http://www.atlasscreensupply.com/infinite_black_laser_film.htm
We used it for years before switching to ink jet film.
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Re: VELUM
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 08:24:38 AM »
I never could figure out Vellum. Our company used it in the beginning, way before we bought them out.

But I didn't try too hard for too long, since I already had experience with inkjets and quality refill inks. At first, I tried to make our Canons lay down a dense enough deposit. I just found there was NO STEENKING way to do that. Even had some hacker try to tweak a rip.  Sheesh...

Several Epsons later, I'm still sore about having to purchase an $8000+ Ricoh 440 Color office laser (on a stupid service/payment contract no less!!) that came with the business, in order to print WAAAY poorer positives than an Epson inkjet that at the time was on sale at Staples for 100 bucks.

Oh, on smaller too. 11x17 as opposed to 13x19.

Scobey, if you are successful using vellums effectively, without shrinkange...my hat's off to you man!

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 09:13:57 AM »
we use casey's vellum from one stroke,  and the printer is hp5100.  works like a charm and no shrinkage ever.  very dark prints as well.

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 09:26:25 AM »
we use casey's vellum from one stroke,  and the printer is hp5100.  works like a charm and no shrinkage ever.  very dark prints as well.

Then there ya go!

(Years ago I spoke with Casey's Page Mill about their stuff and they had a pretty high opinion of it vs inkjet. I should PM you about your process, because the laser is fast and decidedly less fussy. I might revisit the issue at some point if my situation changes.)

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 10:08:42 AM »
there is no comparison between inkjet and vellum, and I made vellum work for a few years. I started way back tray developing films, and would never have thought vellum would work until I tried it. It worked, but there is no comparison to film. But Casey's is tried and true, if that's the route you want to go, you won't have the problems.

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 10:16:19 AM »
we actually use both vellum and inkjet.     for me each has its pros and cons.

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 10:20:17 AM »
If my laser printer hadn't died, I may still be using it for the simple jobs one color jobs I often run, but shrinkage or not (poor George), the d-min/d-max is no comparison, hairspray or similar clear coat notwithstanding.
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 12:50:26 PM »
Andy, I wondered when somebody was going to go there.
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Re: VELUM
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 12:53:26 PM »
Andy, I wondered when somebody was going to go there.

George, or the poor d-min/d-max?
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 01:14:48 PM »
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Printing  (not well) for 35 years. Strong in licensed sports apparel. Plastisol printer. Located in Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 01:17:54 PM »
Pretty sure he was concerned about his d-min vs his d-max too, if you know what i'm saying :D

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2015, 01:23:48 PM »
Pretty sure he was concerned about his d-min vs his d-max too, if you know what i'm saying :D

And for that, you really have to be careful what you spray on to increase d-max!
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2015, 02:18:39 PM »
Boy, this thread went south pretty fast...

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Re: VELUM
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2015, 03:12:45 PM »
Boy, this thread went south pretty fast...

Steve

Well, it started in Tennessee, that's pretty South in the first place.
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