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Offline ericheartsu

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how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« on: July 17, 2015, 10:49:57 AM »
Right now we charge $50 for each custom match pantone plastisol, and $60 for each custom matched pantone WB/DC. I'm thinking about upping the cost for the WB/DC. what do you all charge?
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Offline ol man

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2015, 11:14:59 AM »
wow - i'll be watching this, ( maybe i need to start charging for it)---we dont charge extra for color matching ... using wilflex and cci matching software

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2015, 11:20:04 AM »
we don't charge extra to 'make' a color that's a 'close' match.  ie, I'd like 'minion yellow' (not "pantone(r) Minion Yellow") on a shirt..

we DO charge extra to match exact pantone colors...  if you want the exact pantone match and we have to test (underbase, print, cure, adjust)... that costs extra $50 per color

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2015, 11:45:58 AM »
$10.00 per color, once

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 11:55:16 AM »
I think we're fifteen per for plastisol,  25 per wb/dc.

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2015, 11:58:51 AM »
I get $5-$7.50 as it's no biggie with a formula system, but I'm plastisol only, and work with a complete ink system.

A tip I have shared before is to line the mixing container with clear base to make sure that no component color inks get stuck to the side and left behind.
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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 12:35:57 PM »
if we have it on the shelf, we don't charge. If we have to Pantone match it, we charge $15. For an eye match it's $25.


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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 12:46:32 PM »
I get $5-$7.50 as it's no biggie with a formula system, but I'm plastisol only, and work with a complete ink system.

A tip I have shared before is to line the mixing container with clear base to make sure that no component color inks get stuck to the side and left behind.

i also coat the stirring spatula with base - and if putting the bucket in the shaker, coating the lid -  this applies to new buckets only.

to the topic at hand, we dont charge anything for specific pantones.  the customer has art, we separate, we make it look like the art the customer supplied.  this also creates an inkroom with over 700 different buckets.  some days we print 9000 shirts other days we print less...

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 12:59:25 PM »
We don't charge for pantone matching at all.

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 01:11:35 PM »
Typically if you do contract work, the customer expects you to have the pantone library at your disposal.  As a result, we do not charge for mixing up a pantone color from the Rutland online color matching software (as we use Rutland's mixing system for plastisol and waterbase).

If the customer is asking us to match (example) PMS 186 red on a white base and it needs to MATCH we do charge for that service since, as stated above by Jvanick, it takes time and adjustments to get there.  That charge may or may not be applied depending on the size of the order (i.e. Thousands of impressions) or who this customer is.

If we need to do the same thing with a waterbase color, typically there will be no charge as we are fine tuning the color.  If it is for discharge however, the same thought process applies as if we are doing a white base ink match.

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2015, 01:42:05 PM »
Reminds me of the Tommy Hilfiger days. Tommy Mens navy and red are not approved by Tommy Boys division. Which is different for Juniors etc. But there different by half a shade. Keeping them separate and preventing them from cross contamination was tricky to say the least. Nike would send a tiny piece of sneaker rubber to match every season. Good times >:(

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2015, 01:48:40 PM »
Sneaker rubber that would change color depending on light angle?

Hard to keep that straight even with a light box.....
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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2015, 01:57:12 PM »
We also do not charge if the ink has been mixed and tested by us prior.  Only for new mixes.

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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2015, 02:10:05 PM »
Sneaker rubber that would change color depending on light angle?

Hard to keep that straight even with a light box.....
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Re: how much do you charge to build a pantone color?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2015, 02:45:13 PM »
Ahhhh Tony, a master aglet matcher too.
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