Can a no shirt detector be made

[rmonks]

believe it or not you can order all the individual parts from m/r including the stand and make one for under 300. its crazy but call them and price the separate parts. they do help while training as you can pull the shirt off and the sensor reads the mylar under the pallet and shust those heads off. maybe sam will sell you the one he got with his diamond back since he doesnt use it?  i would ask him..

The parts I'm seeing are like $550

[Socalfmf]

Rich..I never got one of those....or the footpedal...you honestly do not need it....

Sam

[3Deep]

Anatol really made it easy on there presses I have a skip pallet botton on the control head and a mash botton on print head 1.  I will agree with Sam & Rick Roth that to much automation mades you lazy and forgetfull if that part fails, not saying any of you guys are lazy.  I really like having the skip botton, but try my best not to have to use or rely on it.

Darryl

[mk162]

I am one of those people that i I screw up a load, I have to stop and regroup and think for a second.  I was never a fan of the no-shirt detector.

[jsheridan]

Rick

I am with you...I was properly trained on my auto and we do not have a no shirt detector or foot pedal...in my opinion those devices are band-aids for poor training. 

Training is key here....making sure all employees who use the auto know how to properly use it is the best...

Sam

Sorry sam, your training was incorrect. The no-shirt detector is an invaluable tool when one really understands the dynamics involved with keeping a press turning. When you stop the machine, you lose time and heat when flashing, the no-shirt allows the operator to just let the machine go so he can push ink or some other press involved task on the first few heads. Then he can jump back into loading position and keep right on going. Then when the empty boards make their way to the unloader, he can go push ink and other press tasks until his loaded boards return.
This feature is also good for adhesive application or anything that requires the machine to keep turning.

[ebscreen]

There's a reason the world record run relied heavily on these, no?

[ebscreen]

And to the OP, I think the smash button is a more reliable option, much less expensive, and can
likely be wired to the same port on your press.

[244]

believe it or not you can order all the individual parts from m/r including the stand and make one for under 300. its crazy but call them and price the separate parts. they do help while training as you can pull the shirt off and the sensor reads the mylar under the pallet and shust those heads off. maybe sam will sell you the one he got with his diamond back since he doesnt use it?  i would ask him..

What you are paying for is the rights to the software and not just the components. Doing what you suggest is something you might want to think twice about before you hook into that circuit!

The parts I'm seeing are like $550

[rmonks]

believe it or not you can order all the individual parts from m/r including the stand and make one for under 300. its crazy but call them and price the separate parts. they do help while training as you can pull the shirt off and the sensor reads the mylar under the pallet and shust those heads off. maybe sam will sell you the one he got with his diamond back since he doesnt use it?  i would ask him..

What you are paying for is the rights to the software and not just the components. Doing what you suggest is something you might want to think twice about before you hook into that circuit!

The parts I'm seeing are like $550

I not trying to be a SA but does that apply to any non M&R attachment such as a flash.

[244]

No it does not apply to attachments. The shirt detector is a patented process and as such it applies. Non patented attachments that are not covered by a patented software are free to do whatever you wish of them.

[californiadreamin]

The No shirt detector is a patented process!
However, The patent is only good for a period 20 years from the date filed which was Oct.2 1990
So, The patent holder enjoyed many years of benefits $$$$$$$$$$$$.
It is now time time to let public domain, enjoy your 20 years of protection. That is the law!
However the skip shirt pedel is a simpler/ cheaper/better option for the real world.

[inkbrigade]

Rick

I am with you...I was properly trained on my auto and we do not have a no shirt detector or foot pedal...in my opinion those devices are band-aids for poor training. 

Training is key here....making sure all employees who use the auto know how to properly use it is the best...

Sam

Of course your not suppose to mess up!
You never drop a shirt, or accidentally pull two? I know our new press indexes WAY quicker than the DB you have. But if i freak something up, i just pull back and another platten will be along in moments. You can trust the  detector and not worry about the platten or hitting a button or whatever. Just keep going, keep going!

Another reason we like it is for speciality platens. We can get away with having only half the platens and skip loading every other pallet.

[rmonks]

Hey Rich:  call off the patent cops, I found a used one. Cheaper that I could have built one.
Now I need some wing flood bars. my existing ones are 16in. wide. 

[RICK STEFANICK]

Apparently i am mistaken as to the price of the m/r parts..SORRY. I do think they are nice to have though regardless of need and training.you should be able to pick up a used one for around 400 or less from someone. apparently there are alot of m/r users who dont use them.  sorry about the bad info about the parts.

[244]

Hey Rich:  call off the patent cops, I found a used one. Cheaper that I could have built one.
Now I need some wing flood bars. my existing ones are 16in. wide.

No one ever said we would enforce the issue. I just posted to explain what the price really covers. Its not all about the material. Now as far as those flood bars they are up on our store at store.mrprint.com.