Greaves On Garments at Mind's Eye- SAVE THE DATE

[GKitson]

yeah, knowing your business resources, I can see why it's not as appealing to you. Shelly should be able to bring back any business nuggets that would be of value.

I should also add, that I did not see any info on what's in the class and my guess that it is going to be technical is based on knowledge of Richard and what he likes to talk about. It also has to do with the level of knowledge present on the forum, so I am just GUESSING that it will be a better fit for management. 

pierre
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Gotta agree with Pierre, the decision maker in your workflow should get the most out of time with Richard, just waiting for the final agenda proposal with the understanding that it may go out the window if the conversation and interaction leads it that way.

~Kitson

[GKitson]

So how do you register, form, payment, etc?

Registration info should be available by end of business today, If you have e-mailed me an inquiry and are on the pending pre-registration list you will receive all data from me.

I will post on TSB all details also.

~Kitson

[sqslabs]

Awesome, really looking forward to this... 

[RichardGreaves]

  ultimately this will probably be geared more for the production managers and shop owners.

I would imagine the information to be waay over the regular printers comprehension.

Shelly should be eating this stuff up.
Knowing Richard, there will be information about running a business, too.

pierre

I think I understand Pierre of Blue Moon's intent, but I strongly disagree with any notion that "the information to be waay over the regular printers comprehension". Of course, if you think someone can't be trained, you should fire them, not bring them to a seminar.

I can understand how a screen maker or printer may not be inspired by a discussion of Sales, Billing, Separations, Ink Cure or Packing but I expect they'll comprehend how every step in the process SHOULD be geared to make their work easier. Transparency and understanding of all the work that comes to them, and what happens when they pass the work to the next department, (if there is that many workers). Most regular workers are hostages that have no control over what press,chemicals, inks, equipment, tools or the next design they're expected to wave their magic squeegee over - to turn poorly designed wrong Mystery fabric, Art, Mesh, Stencil into the work of art promised by Sales.

Staff need to understand what they're doing - that's usually fundamental science they forgot from school. Henry Ford trained non-english speaking workers to do repetitive tasks in an assembly line, replacing craftsmen that hand fit every part. The digital industry is slowly working up to that, but until then we need industrial design to make jobs run smoothly - From Sales to UPS delivery.

For example, in under 5 minutes I'll explain to everyone the counter-intuitive science of HOW underexposure can lock stencils in the mesh, making them difficult or impossible to reclaim, that ANYONE will understand.  Ask yourself - Has anyone ever explained the invisible science of reclaim failure to you, or did they just declare it without explaining the reason?

I'll be showing the simple exercises the majority of shops don't do.  Unfortunately, they're shooting at goals hoping they hit the target - filled with joy with their luck when it actually succeeds and praying it will work next week.

I'm surprised that Pierre would think my manner would be difficult for anyone with an interest in screen printing to comprehend. I know and care for Pierre. I know that's not the negative slant he intended.

At trade shows I regularly ask if you're having any problems as any diagnostician would. Usually I can tell from how you phrase your question what actual problem is, because you don't know what you don't know. For me to be better prepared tell me what you're hoping for - so I can include it in my topics.

As the Great Boris Lermontov said, "The greatest magician in the world can't pull a rabbit from a hat - if the rabbit isn't already IN the hat".

Richard Greaves
rgreaves@gmail.com
646-807-8580

[GKitson]

UPDATE; Again

Richard gave me his talking points and I am not surprised, this workshop is going to take 2 years and you should get an associates degree when finished with THIS portion,  the cost should be $175,000.

HOWEVER, we have only 2 days.  I already said the price was $175 less any discounts,so 2 days and $175 it is.

Working on the agenda and will not have it done by end of day today, you will have it sometime over the weekend.

Hotel came in cheaper $55++ than expected and I am extending the 'official' programed instruction hours, not sure how much data I/we can cram in, I am looking for a bigger crowbar. Hotel & travel docs with super secret discount code soon.

If you plan on arriving on Thursday late afternoon/early evening and returning on Sunday you won't miss anything.  Looks like a group dinner on Saturday night fits the plans of many however it will be on your own dime.

Gonna make the complimentary headache meds the giant size bottle cause there is a lot of stuff on the agenda.  My mind already hurts doing the scheduling.

I agree with BOTH Pierre & Richard that the content is suitable for managers, artists, sales people, wanna be's, production floor robots, ink kings, screen vultures and the kid at the end of the dryer.

Kind of like if this was a motion picture it would be rated G, PG, R and MA AT THE SAME TIME.

[blue moon]

  ultimately this will probably be geared more for the production managers and shop owners.

I would imagine the information to be waay over the regular printers comprehension.

Shelly should be eating this stuff up.
Knowing Richard, there will be information about running a business, too.

pierre

I think I understand Pierre of Blue Moon's intent, but I strongly disagree with any notion that "the information to be waay over the regular printers comprehension". Of course, if you think someone can't be trained, you should fire them, not bring them to a seminar.


Richard Greaves
rgreaves@gmail.com
646-807-8580

oh, maaan! I am in trouble. . . . AGAIN!

pierre

[GKitson]

Easier to ask for forgiveness that permission  ??

Trouble is both Richard & Pierre are so damn smart that......(fill in the blank)

~Kitson

[RichardGreaves]

I think I understand Pierre of Blue Moon's intent, but I strongly disagree with any notion that "the information to be waay over the regular printers comprehension". Of course, if you think someone can't be trained, you should fire them, not bring them to a seminar.

oh, maaan! I am in trouble. . . . AGAIN!

pierre

Pierre,

I promise I won't tell any stories about Blue Moon or ask you loaded questions - in public.


I'm glad you posted. I spent time describing my plan for describing insights and experiences I've had. I'm excited.

[TCT]

Random thought/question... Is the "classroom" part of this or even just the audio going or maybe can be recorded? I am the type that can't take notes, I get distracted then(yes I know there is a diagnosis for that). I grasp much more if I can just listen, but that leaves me empty handed down the line if I need to or want to reference something.

[GKitson]

Random thought/question... Is the "classroom" part of this or even just the audio going or maybe can be recorded? I am the type that can't take notes, I get distracted then(yes I know there is a diagnosis for that). I grasp much more if I can just listen, but that leaves me empty handed down the line if I need to or want to reference something.

My ADD kicks in after lunch, we can take turns wondering around straightening things, really if I don't get original stuff done before 10 AM I am screwed.  I always schedule important stuff early AM.

Which is probably why I am watching TSB instead of working of the workshop schedule......

~Kitson

[blue moon]

Random thought/question... Is the "classroom" part of this or even just the audio going or maybe can be recorded? I am the type that can't take notes, I get distracted then(yes I know there is a diagnosis for that). I grasp much more if I can just listen, but that leaves me empty handed down the line if I need to or want to reference something.

My ADD kicks in after lunch, we can take turns wondering around straightening things, really if I don't get original stuff done before 10 AM I am screwed.  I always schedule important stuff early AM.

Which is probably why I am watching TSB instead of working of the workshop schedule......

~Kitson

and there I go causing trouble AGAIN (Greg on your request we can shut down TSB in the afternoons!)

pierre

[RichardGreaves]

Random thought/question... Is the "classroom" part of this or even just the audio going or maybe can be recorded?

I can make an MP3 without much trouble.

[tonypep]

Where to begin? I first met Richard around '82 in CT. Back then we couldn't wait for the G on G columns. It was pretty much the only outside, unbiased info you could get, other than other friends Geoff Baxter and Joe Clarke. When he lambasted the owners about their bad practices they had no choice but to take us all to dinner perhaps out of embarrassment. I honestly can't remember how I came to embrace (and perhaps coin the term) proceduralization however RG may correct me on that. On that regard, it was instilled in me at a young age with much thanks to him and the others. But it came quickly. While putting my way through art school, The day job was in a motor re-wind shop. It was obvious they had that down. First screenprinting job was my first introduction to Chaos Theory. G on G gave me what I needed to implement procedures. Richard and Geoff had preceded me in companies like Precision and Harlequin but I landed there at their recommendations as I recall.
Winding up....all I can say this event is unprecedented not only in our industry but most others. I thoroughly embrace what you are doing. Me?....I'd be a big interjecting distraction! I am a how to make what doesn't work....work for me. Reverse Re-engineering. Not sure if that it can be taught. Its a Gestalt thing.

Best to you all and interested in the outcome also RG p-mail me if you like
It  would be good to here from you
tp

[ZooCity]

I'll pony up for a copy of the .mp3 file.

[TCT]

I'll pony up for a copy of the .mp3 file.

I imagine quite a few could be sold. If you throw a video camera in there that is basically what Lon Winters did on one of the $100 DVD's they sell.

As the originator of this wonderful idea, I will gladly accept free admission for the weekend!