Author Topic: What are you using to print film/positives?  (Read 10344 times)

Offline jsheridan

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2130
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2015, 04:19:20 PM »
The blackmaxx cartridges are an unnecessary expense.  You can get equal results with a good uv blocking bulk ink and refillable cartridges for literally a tenth the cost.



I know right! Got a link for that... quick search I found this, UV blocking ink for ya..



I'm still using my R1800,.


what a great printer that is so overlooked from the rest of the epson line.   

I got mine off cragislist for 50 bucks, cleaned it up real nice and loaded it up with the JetBlack Inks, as they were the best UV blocking DYE ink that I could find to make the films as opaque as possible on a clear non waterproof film. That combo allowed me to hold a 3% dot on my 272 mesh using high output black light fluorescent tubes in my lawson exposure.

CARTS - http://www.cisinks.com/empty-refillable-ink-cartridge-set-for-epson-r800-r1800-p-921.html?osCsid=3435b5528ffe654e41ce395613b0abd1

DYE inks - http://www.filmoutputsolutions.com/dyeink

FILM - http://stuff4print.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=43_28
Blacktop Graphics Screenprinting and Consulting Services


Offline Gilligan

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6853
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2015, 05:03:39 PM »
Small operation, bottom end of the scale here, and still amazed at the quality I can put out with my Epson 1100, using Cobra Pigment inks (I do a lot of transfers as well) on inkjet.net films.
13x19 is plenty big enough for me. I'd just farm out jthe printing on jobs requiring a bigger image anyway.

Andy, I'm having issues with dripping.... ever get that on your 1100?

Seems like sometimes all the ink just leaks out.

Offline Frog

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13980
  • Docendo discimus
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 05:16:01 PM »
Nope, not at all, although I've had a mark here and there on the edge of papers, usually after a misfeed/jam, so I figure it's wet ink being tranferred.
Where does it leak? Could it be an aftermarket cart issue?

btw, DK is another WF1100 user who had his more than a year before I got mine.
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

Offline Gilligan

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6853
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2015, 05:19:12 PM »
My understanding is that it can't be the carts.  As long as the print heads are primed it shouldn't be able to pull any more ink out of the cart than is requested.

I've got two different printers that are doing it though. :(

Offline Frog

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13980
  • Docendo discimus
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2015, 05:27:19 PM »
So now you have me worried.

Perhaps you should ask in a new thread. I know we have at least four or five other 1100 users here. (probably way more, as we're not the only cheapies, LOL!)
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

Offline Gilligan

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6853
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2015, 05:39:13 PM »
No sweat, Ross is giving me some instructions.  We just aren't always moving in the same direction. :)

Offline Mark @ Hurricane Printing

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 567
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2015, 08:47:29 PM »
Epson 3000 with t-rip and also an Oyo thermal image setter
Mark

Offline abchung

  • !!!
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 481
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2015, 09:17:31 PM »
Small operation, bottom end of the scale here, and still amazed at the quality I can put out with my Epson 1100, using Cobra Pigment inks (I do a lot of transfers as well) on inkjet.net films.
13x19 is plenty big enough for me. I'd just farm out jthe printing on jobs requiring a bigger image anyway.

Andy, I'm having issues with dripping.... ever get that on your 1100?

Seems like sometimes all the ink just leaks out.

I use a 1100 as well.
I scratched my print head with a jammed film, and magenta has to be emptied because there would be a thin layer of magenta on the film.

The ink I use is original Epson refillables (L-series)


Offline tonyt79

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 222
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2015, 09:29:09 PM »
So now you have me worried.

Perhaps you should ask in a new thread. I know we have at least four or five other 1100 users here. (probably way more, as we're not the only cheapies, LOL!)
I use 1100 also, been using it every day for about 3 years. No problems. With cis system all black inks.

Offline acescreen

  • Verified/Junior
  • **
  • Posts: 68
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2015, 01:19:31 AM »
Been on the ScreenWriter (Xante) for about 8 years. Started on the 3 it died, went to the 4 which was great, but when we swithched to Mac based cpu's only the 5 was compatible so I bought that about 3 years ago I've had problems printing over 12.25" wide since day one. We have to warm it up and run a few sheets of paper before trying to print up to the full 13" wide max. It's been a bit of a headache...

I've really been wanting to check out the OYO but I just haven't found any good info or talked to many people who can speak much good about it. I see alot of guys using the epson's but I just have a thing that I don't want to go to inkjet....maybe I just need to get over it and give it a try.

Any one with a OYO and who is mac based that can share any info...the good the bad and the ugly. Your time would be appreciated.

Offline balloonguy

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 985
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2015, 07:34:40 AM »
Been on the ScreenWriter (Xante) for about 8 years. Started on the 3 it died, went to the 4 which was great, but when we swithched to Mac based cpu's only the 5 was compatible so I bought that about 3 years ago I've had problems printing over 12.25" wide since day one. We have to warm it up and run a few sheets of paper before trying to print up to the full 13" wide max. It's been a bit of a headache...

I've really been wanting to check out the OYO but I just haven't found any good info or talked to many people who can speak much good about it. I see alot of guys using the epson's but I just have a thing that I don't want to go to inkjet....maybe I just need to get over it and give it a try.

Any one with a OYO and who is mac based that can share any info...the good the bad and the ugly. Your time would be appreciated.
I am mac based and have been using the oyo for several years. I LOVE the thing. The films are always crisp and accurate. It is not as dark as our old silver plate films but it is great for what we do today. The tech support is great. I do buy the premium plus film. It is more expensive per roll but as long as you are using it the machine is guaranteed. I have a had a few minor issues that I have been talk through repairs. I had one big issue with the machine loosing alignment. I sent it back to oyo. They fixed it in a day or two and sent it right back. I have said many times that the oyo is one of the best business decisions that we have made. I will admit that do like the idea of CTS though.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
Matt
When you dig grave will you make it shallow so that I can feel the rain?

Offline GaryG

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 750
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2015, 10:59:49 AM »
[quote author=acescreen link=topic=14385.msg139005#msg139005 date=1426310371
I've really been wanting to check out the OYO but I just haven't found any good info or talked to many people who can speak much good about it. I see alot of guys using the epson's but I just have a thing that I don't want to go to inkjet....maybe I just need to get over it and give it a try. 
[/quote]

We used a GCC same as the Xante and was hesitant to switch over 6 years ago. Had used velum since it's inception and was
leery because I didn't see it giving good halftones, Wrong. Oyo if you can afford it, but the most prevalent used output
system in the industry now for years, is inkjet. Just look at the peeps on this site, even the high-end printers use it unless they can justify direct to screen. Pretty inexpensive, go for it! If you can afford an imagesetter like Oyo, it will of course have a nicer output than inkjet.

Offline jsheridan

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2130
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2015, 11:00:30 AM »

Any one with a OYO and who is mac based that can share any info...the good the bad and the ugly. Your time would be appreciated.

I've used many a Techstyler in my days, nice machine but sadly the technology is outdated.

With the cheap cost of Inkjet that can hold just as good and better dots than the OYO, you're better off buying a used 4880 Epson and a new imac with the left over cash.



Blacktop Graphics Screenprinting and Consulting Services

Offline Gilligan

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6853
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2015, 11:02:46 AM »
My problem with the oyo's is that at $10k, you might as well pony up and get CTS!

Offline Fluid

  • !!!
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 462
  • Keep the Ink Moving... Stay Corelian My Friends!
Re: What are you using to print film/positives?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2015, 07:25:00 PM »
The techstyler is a great imagesetter.  Now owned by Exile Technologies yet still the same machine.  I had a 12 inch for years and upgraded to the techstyler 14inch about 9 to 10 years ago amd it still runs strong. I go through a roll of film monthly sometimes twice a month.   Have inly had to replace one of the rollers since purchasing. Not bad at all.  The price has dropped since my purchase as well.  Think I payed 19k for mine direcrly from oyo. Not ao think they list around 10k.  With no inks to buy it is a great asset and offers great films and halftones. The next best thing would be a direct to screen.

Richard Reilly - Fluid

Richard
--Fluid       www.fluiddsn.com Graphic Designs, Color Separations & Film Output 15+ years Industry Experience - CorelDRAW MasterĀ®