New 10/12 press - WH Sabre - vs- M&R Sportsman - go!

[ol man]

I've seen many a good print come off of a Sportsman.

This statement is crazy ^ to say, all the other stuff you talk about is good,  the reason I say that statement is crazy is it's all about the art and printer before it gets on press....other than that they both sound like you can't lose with either one.

darryl

agreed

[brandon]

As an owner of Sportsman presses (I have had both 20x20 and 16x18 print areas - and you can print larger than that with both. I have done it many times) I can say they are reliable and extremely easy to use. I will continue to buy them but I believe our next press will be a Gauntlet as they will be replacing the Sporty with them. I could be wrong though. Don't listen to me haha. But the Sporty is smooth, reliable, just great all around. Always on, always ready to take what you can throw at it. Rugged press. Looks handsome to me as well but that is just me. I would like to believe that with today's presses though the quality of the print depends on the shop, not the press. All of the presses being made today should be more than adequate to produce quality prints.

[GaryG]

Just set up our first job with the Tri-Loc on our Sportsman and
saved at least half the time after 3 years of swinging and flinging the micros.
And I can only see it getting faster... 

[Printficient]

I've seen many a good print come off of a Sportsman.

This statement is crazy ^ to say, all the other stuff you talk about is good,  the reason I say that statement is crazy is it's all about the art and printer before it gets on press....other than that they both sound like you can't lose with either one.

darryl

agreed

After personally running the press ol man has before him and seeing the prints he does on it I can say I have seen some GREAT prints come off of the Precision Oval

[Gilligan]

The press's ability to gain functionality.  The press connects to WiFi and downloads program updates.  Even since I've had it (December), new features and programs have been added.  The press didn't have Orbital Mode when I bought it.  Then after a few minutes updating one morning,  it does.  I've used it a few times already.  Plus, it also shows a video of what the new feature is.

Access to the entire list of sensors for easy troubleshooting and the ability to upload a log to WH for technical support, if needed.  Hopefully I am a few years away from ever needing this but when I do, it'll be very helpful.

Video maintenance guides.  The Sabre has a maintenance schedule including videos on exactly how to do the maintenance.  I know most of us are pretty mechanically inclined, but a video guide is definitely nice.

Lastly, I can confirm that Tri-Loc fits on the Sabre.

Yeah, it's really cool to come in in the morning and see "ooh... we have some new features added to the press!"  No asking, no nothing... just extra little things they come up with that they passed on to us.  I often ask my guy "Hey, anything new lately?!"  It's like Hanukkah all year long... or so I assume, never participated in one.

I've called about a quirk in the way the pedal was working (had a 2 second delay before it would recognize another press) and they said "Ok, you will have that fix in the morning."  Pretty awesome!

Flashbacks are great for us with our space restrictions but not everyone will have that issue.

I do love the trouble shooting page with all the sensor information on them.  If I've done something stupid I can always look at that page to verify that everything is working as it should.  So you can see "yes, the press knows the table is in position or up or down blah blah blah."

Also not sure how the Sporty works for free spin, but our press is always available for free spin as long as the table is down.  It has a detent in the table to keep it in place (like manuals do).  I know some tables have to be put in "free spin mode"... which is just another stop if you need to move the table to wipe a screen, tape a pin hole or just look at a print while you are walking around setting squeegee angles and such.

And even for the mechanically inclined, it's nice to have that prompt to do your PM as well as the video to make sure you don't forget to do something silly or miss a grease nipple or something.

[ol man]

I've seen many a good print come off of a Sportsman.

This statement is crazy ^ to say, all the other stuff you talk about is good,  the reason I say that statement is crazy is it's all about the art and printer before it gets on press....other than that they both sound like you can't lose with either one.

darryl

agreed

After personally running the press ol man has before him and seeing the prints he does on it I can say I have seen some GREAT prints come off of the Precision Oval

why thank you

[Sbrem]

I've seen many a good print come off of a Sportsman.

This statement is crazy ^ to say, all the other stuff you talk about is good,  the reason I say that statement is crazy is it's all about the art and printer before it gets on press....other than that they both sound like you can't lose with either one.

darryl

agreed

After personally running the press ol man has before him and seeing the prints he does on it I can say I have seen some GREAT prints come off of the Precision Oval

why thank you

Precision Oval? Holy cow, that was the first auto I ran back around '81...

Steve

[ol man]

I've seen many a good print come off of a Sportsman.

This statement is crazy ^ to say, all the other stuff you talk about is good,  the reason I say that statement is crazy is it's all about the art and printer before it gets on press....other than that they both sound like you can't lose with either one.

darryl

agreed

After personally running the press ol man has before him and seeing the prints he does on it I can say I have seen some GREAT prints come off of the Precision Oval

why thank you

Precision Oval? Holy cow, that was the first auto I ran back around '81...

Steve

i can make magic happen on that press,,,as winston said - you gotta understand cause and effect

[TCT]

That user portal where you can sen jobs to the pres is AWESOME!