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Offline sweetts

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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2015, 07:09:37 AM »
To say pneumatics will be more accurate then electric drive, to me , is silly talk.

Are we running milling machines producing $$$Valuable$$$ components, or are we printing t-shirts for pocket change?
Why measure screen tension, emulsion thickness, why level a press to the thousandth of an inch it's only a shirt. That might be why change is so slow sell what the people feel is good enough. Thanks, it's clearer to me now. Why change if there is no call for it? If it ain't broke and people buy it why change it. It's just good business, till some idiot comes along and changes things lol.
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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2015, 08:21:52 AM »
We have debated this a lot in our shop. When we were deciding on or last press the RPM hung in there till final 3(actually pretty close to final 2) and it was simply because of how exact everything could be controlled digitally. I have had my hard head argument that there was no excuse to not have android phone type device on the end of every print head that would control EVERYTHING.

In our shop we have debated/questioned why other advanced options and features are not available on presses. What we keep coming down to(not that we are equipment manufacturers) is a assumption of what people/customers will ACTUALLY pay for. It seems like manufacturers are always trying to come out with a press that will be less expensive, not more expensive. The slogan "we added a few touch screens and 15% raise in list price" isn't exactly a great pitch! :)

I think M&R has a very good example of what I am saying. From my understanding(please correct me if I am inaccurate) the main difference between the CHIII and the CHIIID is more exact and digital control throughout the machine, but especially on the print heads. Here you can get a equally capable machine, but you have the option to add(pay) the extra bells and whistles. Essentially serving two different prospective customers.

I think when machines like the Sabre and the newer interface of MHMs start becoming more common place, the other brands will almost have to eventually follow suit at some point and ditch the switches, buttons, and dials. But who knows, we all may be printing on 4 head 12 station DTG presses by then! ;)
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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2015, 11:28:29 AM »
I'm a bells and whistles kind of guy, but I know it's not for everyone.  I would get bored with no toys or tools to play with out back.  If it was just toggle switches and rheostat knobs I'd need something else to get the blood flowing and there is no telling what that would be.  I like vintage land cruisers, fine watches, and automatic screen printing presses with bells and whistles :) but I don't expect everyone else to like the same things.  But when it comes to the thread topic, AC heads can make a huge difference when used properly.  I know I'd hate to be printing white ink through 156/64's, 195/55's or even a 110/81 in this weather with air operated print heads.  I have nightmares about that...and being attacked by large women with no clothes on.  Wonder what that means?  Don't answer that...I don't want to know.
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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2015, 12:54:35 PM »
Why not Jack up the price when adding $500 per head... that equates to 15% right? ;-)

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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2015, 03:41:00 PM »
Why not Jack up the price when adding $500 per head... that equates to 15% right? ;-)

My guess is it would be much more than that, and that is kind of my point in this hi jacked thread- We want these ultra futuristic options and features but my guess is that the majority if presented with the dollar figure to upgrade to the digital SOB, most would pass.

$500 per head for all digital upgrade, I'd go for that. 
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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2015, 04:57:06 PM »
I was mostly meaning price of the tablet/device on there.

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Re: A/C heads
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2015, 05:10:01 PM »
Interesting Thread!!!!!

All of these issue have been answered.....Anatol makes a ALL Electric Press (the VOLT) which is tested in the field with over 35 press sold. Servo driven for speed,  strength and reliability  We have in the field, small and larger press in fact a 14 station 12 color.(so Far)  Customers rave about the press.
No issues what so ever with the performance.  Pneumatic screen clamp issue has been solved.  Please come visit me in ISS Long Beach Show Booth#471  and I will personally show you the press.