How do I screen print on sweaters?

[Sbrem]

I second Steve, we never underbase metallic inks, we just use a 110 or 86 mesh count and pfp using a 60 duro squeegee.

darryl

110S here, double stroke and forget about it.

Steve

[Frog]

yup... it'll definitely tarnish after a bunch of washing

we've overcoated with Wilflex Soft Hand clear with good results.

That's what got me on shimmers fifteen or so years ago, and only had a few clients insist on the real stuff.

[TCT]

110S here, double stroke and forget about it.

Steve

That is what we would do if printing it manually. One thought for the OP, for me personally if I didn't have "S" mesh I would still run it on a regular 110. I just am not a fan of how a 86 P/F/P feals.

[sqslabs]

I'm using Union ink  Ef bright silver shimmer, and textac adhesive.

Would highly recommend getting your hands on some web spray adhesive when printing fleece.  Waterbased tack like Textac won't hold very well/long and can leave residue inside the garments.

[Sbrem]

110S here, double stroke and forget about it.

Steve

That is what we would do if printing it manually. One thought for the OP, for me personally if I didn't have "S" mesh I would still run it on a regular 110. I just am not a fan of how a 86 P/F/P feals.

Same here, prior to 110s, we'd still use 110(T)

[Frog]

I'm using Union ink  Ef bright silver shimmer, and textac adhesive.

Would highly recommend getting your hands on some web spray adhesive when printing fleece. 

No worries, as it tends to get everywhere! LOL!

[nismoasfuh]

I ran the job, worked just fine doing the print flash print as recommended. This was done on a 110, probably do need to invest on a screen with a lower mesh count for the future. I'm sorry but what is the "s" or "t" in the mesh count mentioned?
And I love the textac adhesive, but as mentioned twice already in this thread it did leave a lot of fabric behind requiring me to clean the pallets and Re Glue. I already have a spray adhesive, good to know that's what I should use for the future. Just stopped using it ever since I got the textac.

[TCT]

S mesh is reference to Murakami Smart mesh. Look it up on here, provides larger openings, better detail, and works at lower tensions. Great stuff!

[TCT]

If you are printing manual, do yourself a favor and pick up a 150S to try. Your life will change.

[nismoasfuh]

I am using a manual m&r. Great to know! Thanks!

[Sbrem]

S mesh is reference to Murakami Smart mesh. Look it up on here, provides larger openings, better detail, and works at lower tensions. Great stuff!

It's not just Murakami, "S" fabrics have been around for many years; as said, thinner threads, larger opening, makes sense right? Many benefits. One of them for me was that you could get finer detail on coarser meshed than before. We also use 81SDE from Saati, very coarse with thin threads..

Steve

[ScreenPrinter123]

I ran the job, worked just fine doing the print flash print as recommended. This was done on a 110, probably do need to invest on a screen with a lower mesh count for the future. I'm sorry but what is the "s" or "t" in the mesh count mentioned?
And I love the textac adhesive, but as mentioned twice already in this thread it did leave a lot of fabric behind requiring me to clean the pallets and Re Glue. I already have a spray adhesive, good to know that's what I should use for the future. Just stopped using it ever since I got the textac.

For fleece make sure you use a web based spray as opposed to the spray you would use for t-shirts.

[ScreenFoo]

Union specifies something like 65-85 as a mesh count. That's really coarse! If that doesn't cover with a p-f-p, nothing will.
I have never gone coarser than 110, but have only used One Stroke and IC shimmers.

I have underbased, and not underbased, and have still not decided which looked better (and justified the extra screen as I usually do pretty short runs)

Am I remembering this wrong?  Maybe I was thinking of liquid silver.  I was thinking the shimmer was the very fine particles.

If shimmer is like the standard medium flake metallic, I think 150/48 would be a little rough.  Seemed like even 125/70's would 'filter' it a bit.
Can always get lower counts in S (or whatever thread)

[Frog]

Union specifies something like 65-85 as a mesh count. That's really coarse! If that doesn't cover with a p-f-p, nothing will.
I have never gone coarser than 110, but have only used One Stroke and IC shimmers.

I have underbased, and not underbased, and have still not decided which looked better (and justified the extra screen as I usually do pretty short runs)

Am I remembering this wrong?  Maybe I was thinking of liquid silver.  I was thinking the shimmer was the very fine particles.

If shimmer is like the standard medium flake metallic, I think 150/48 would be a little rough.  Seemed like even 125/70's would 'filter' it a bit.
Can always get lower counts in S (or whatever thread)

I didn't even look up Unions recommendations for shimmer. I went by their old real metallic, which (like liquid silver and all true metallics) is a fine powder suspended in a clear base. In fact, we used Union's "Clear Base for Silver" to soften plastisol before Soft Hand base was the norm.
I suspect that the coarse mesh suggestion is for opacity, and is also old when most mesh recommendations were coarser than today.