"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
The most important question to me is who of those two will give me the best price to have the first LED exposure unit in Japan?
Yes, I'd like to know this as well.Will either of you replace bulbs, parts and labor, for the life of the unit?If not is it a user serviceable part that you sell to the end user?
IMO which really doesn't matter Rich simply saw an opportunity to promote his product, he did not bash anyone just simply stated why he thought his was better, nothing wrong with that. It took Anatol 6 pages and a bunch of ribbing to say why they feel theirs is a better value. Anatol should have stepped up and simply stated the facts and answered questions at least on page two. Nothing wrong with a little conversation.
I assure you this unit does not compare to the Starlight and our exclusive LED's. Make sure you get a money back guarantee if you buy it as well as a lifetime replacement on all the LED's even if one fails! Price isn't everything as a lot of people have found out.
It's like a push and pull with both/all manufacturers. You show me yours first THEN I'll show you mine type attitude. MSRP was first posted for the Aurora on page 6, then Rich posts the MSRP of the Starlight on page 7. If Rich and Anatol want to keep the internet discussions ACCURATE, then post the damn MSRP's so we can at least not throw around arbitrary numbers or, "I heard from billy joe whatshisnuts that it's 12k cheaper with X". It's 2014 here folks, put your MSRP on your websites! Ford and Chevy post their MSRP's, and their dealer networks are cheaper than those prices, but it's a starting point of reference for comparison.Lord help Joe Printer when he googles around and finds this thread then tries to filter through all this nonsense for opinions/features/cost on the Aurora or Starlight exposure units.
Anatol Aurora:Cost: 23x31 $3776 + crate and freight (comes with a stand)Feaures: 4 programmable presetsVacuum draw down sensor which activates exposure timer when correct vacuum level is reached. Proprietary membrane panel control.120V 7amp rated.Warranty:Anatol support line hours?Two years parts and labor(implied LED warranty beyond 2 years by Anatolhelp)Performance:Initial video review suggests exposure timing ranges 12-30 seconds with pure photopolymer emulsion.M&R Starlight:Cost: (23X31) is $4195 + crate and freight (stand available but not included)Features:Exposure timer up/down function, no presets. Vacuum switch is manual, when vacuum is visually reached, hit the start button to start exposure timer. Non-proprietary hardware.110V 9.5amp ratedWarranty:24 hour supportOne year limited warrantyLifetime warranty on the LED'sPerformance:Multiple reviews concur exposure timing ranges from 1.5-30 seconds with pure photopolymer emulsion.Conclusion???(My opinion!)The Starlight uses superior faster LED's (proven by users and exposure times posted). LED's are the meat and potatoes of these things, bottom line. Anatol definitely has a leg up on functionality. Who wants to stand there and wait for vacuum to draw down before manually hitting the exposure button. Yes, I know the next model up Starlight has better features, but why should the lower model uses suffer speed/ease of use with the same fast LED's? Cost difference in my opinion is insignificant at this exposure unit size.Until someone shows that the Aurura's LED's are capable of the same exposure times as the Starlight, I give the Starlight the win.
great info surprising that the starlight won it for you based on their LEDs when you note they are proprietary they have no long term track record. Great side by side. Do you feel more LEDs in a unit is a plus or minus to its engineering?
Quote from: GraphicDisorder on July 31, 2014, 02:23:23 PMQuote from: traxlerprinting on July 31, 2014, 01:49:00 PMI have actually heard of some companies paying or giving customers free accessories for actively posting in forums and on social media... *cough* M&R *cough*. I'm just a guy who likes to make high quality shirts and print money. That's a pretty bold thing to say, do you have any proof of this?FYI, there is a Anatol customer on this forum who openly admits Anatol fixed his machine issues to remain "neutral" on them when posting and in public. What's your thoughts on that?If we are gonna chuck around things like that let's make sure you know Anatol has played that basic game. It played out right on this forum recently.Anatol Customer who says we bought his silence, it's not TRUE....Do you proof of that statement? Enough is Enough
Quote from: traxlerprinting on July 31, 2014, 01:49:00 PMI have actually heard of some companies paying or giving customers free accessories for actively posting in forums and on social media... *cough* M&R *cough*. I'm just a guy who likes to make high quality shirts and print money. That's a pretty bold thing to say, do you have any proof of this?FYI, there is a Anatol customer on this forum who openly admits Anatol fixed his machine issues to remain "neutral" on them when posting and in public. What's your thoughts on that?If we are gonna chuck around things like that let's make sure you know Anatol has played that basic game. It played out right on this forum recently.Anatol Customer who says we bought his silence, it's not TRUE....Do you proof of that statement? Enough is Enough
I have actually heard of some companies paying or giving customers free accessories for actively posting in forums and on social media... *cough* M&R *cough*. I'm just a guy who likes to make high quality shirts and print money.
Where is the document that states that this is for your silence. As you claim? Just so you know Christine has been employed here for 18 continuous year.We will not discuss individual customer concerns on this or any public forum. If you have any issues or concerns with your equipment please direct them to my attention.I can solve your problems.