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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 03:43:46 PM »
We're paying about $.25 sheet, vs about $1.00 for the same image on film.

Yes, but in my experience, vellum breaks down; the toner likes to stick to emulsion, so maybe you only get one exposure. It depends on humidity, but in the summers here in New England, the toner breaks down badly, not so on the film. Don't get me wrong, we went through tens of thousands of sheets of vellum, but film is simply a superior media. This is where the DTS guys will chime in, but they know what I mean.

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 05:11:01 PM »
How about this place? Looks like it is still under construction though..  ;)
http://www.valleyscreenprintsupply.com/


What, no vellum?
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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2014, 05:20:12 PM »
How about this place? Looks like it is still under construction though..  ;)
http://www.valleyscreenprintsupply.com/


What, no vellum?

Is that the same as laser film? Sorry I haven't been around long enough to know that lingo.

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2014, 05:23:51 PM »
laserfilm is transluscent, like vellum, but a plastic base, not paper. We used to use it with our Xante ScreenWriter 3. Expensive printer, expensive chemicals to make the image was fixed to the film, and would gouge you to death over spare parts.

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2014, 05:25:26 PM »
Steve stole my thunder, but here's my contribution anyway

Actually, laser film is its wealthy cousin. Vellum is an actual paper, like tracing paper with a little more body.
Laser film is a frosty polyester with a "toothy" surface. Supposed to shrink less than the vellum. Depends on the printer (and its fuser)

This film is not to be confused with the coated clear film used to make overhead projections.
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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 05:32:17 PM »
Got it. No vellum here then. Sorry

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 05:51:43 PM »
I use to buy my vellum from a company call We Sellum Vellum or they use that as there slogan
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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 06:05:25 PM »
Luckily we don't have the same humidity problem here in Va. 

Still want to know what kind of printers everyone is using.

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM »
Tech Support has the vellum, seems like good pricing but again I am not sure:
http://store.techsupportsps.com/products/laser-vellum

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2014, 07:52:37 PM »
I pay around $160.00 for 1000 sheets of Vellum 11.5 x 17.
$100.00 for 100 sheets of 13 x 19 inkjet film

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2014, 11:10:47 PM »
I'm a relatively new kid on the block and I have not used vellum since about 2005.  Back then I had a HP Laserjet 4M and when that bit the dust, switched to inkjet and film and never looked back.

If you're getting satisfactory results with vellum, then by all means, from those prices, keep doing what you're doing.
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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 12:52:08 AM »
We have too much of a need for tiny, crystal clear film for padprinting so vellum has gone the way of the dinosaurs for us. Great images for screenprinting is nice too.

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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2014, 01:21:12 AM »
by the end of my vellum and toner days, I was using any cheap clear lacquer, or enamel, or even some hair sprays, rather than pay the premium price for the toner aid.
They all pretty mkuch did the same thing, slightly dissolved it and redistributed it in a more opaque way.Sending 'em down the dryer worked similarly, but could curl the paper.
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Re: Vellum or film?
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 11:57:29 AM »
I seem to recall having White Rain as my favorite hairspray fixative...

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Vellum or film?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2014, 03:33:26 AM »
We have a Epson 4880 set up with Accurip, and have black in all the cassettes. We get great blacks on  waterproof film that costs about $100 for a 17" wide roll.
The advantage of using rolls is that you can adjust the width of the print and not print a full sheet each time.       We set the width slightly larger that our image.
I find that it's much easier to expose film than vellum.
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