Anatol volt

[numbercruncher]

If you are thinking of switching gears - Might want to look at an Anatol Titan with a rotary screw compressor as well.
Michael Jirasek
Anatol

[Shanarchy]

If you are thinking of switching gears - Might want to look at an Anatol Titan with a rotary screw compressor as well.
Michael Jirasek
Anatol

Apples to Apples I would say compare a Titan or Horizon to the Diamondback. The Volt seems to be a different animal.
***edit: Upon a quick look I see the Titan is also a mini. I would say compare a full size Horizon to the Diamondback.***

I would look at a full size Horizon, not a mini or Titan. Unless you absolutely could not fit it. Both the Horizon and Diamondback are great presses and should be priced close to each other. There's a few pros and cons between the two.

[Prosperi-Tees]

If space is an issue this used Titan is a pretty good buy if you ask me.
http://www.digitsmith.com/2010-anatol-titan-8-6-automatic-press-rapid-wave-quartz-flash-40033.html

[244]

If you are thinking of switching gears - Might want to look at an Anatol Titan with a rotary screw compressor as well.
Michael Jirasek
Anatol

Apples to Apples I would say compare a Titan or Horizon to the Diamondback. The Volt seems to be a different animal.

I would look at a full size Horizon, not a mini or Titan. Unless you absolutely could not fit it. Both the Horizon and Diamondback are great presses and should be priced close to each other. There's a few pros and cons between the two.

I don't want to get drawn into the comments but when comparing apple to apple and say they should be priced together a couple of very important things are constantly overlooked. One- at M&R there are fifty three field technicians available for service to our customers. Two- we have an actual twenty four hour service available to the customer three hundred and sixty five days a year. Three we have three full time print trainers on staff and offer print training for free to our customers in our facility. Four we offer a money-back guarantee if you are not happy with the equipment.!Five- we offer full preventative maintenance training in our facility with an M&R tech at your disposal. The competitor you are comparing and I could be wrong has maybe two factory techs, no after hours phone support, no print trainers on staff, and no money-back guarantee  So are you comparing apple to apple? I think not! That does not even take the equipment into comparison. Just a FYI

[Prosperi-Tees]

Well there ya go! 

[3Deep]

Rich,  I respect you a lot and you have done a great job, but apples to apples is all about the press and you know that, that's like comparing  a steak from Wal-mart to a steak from Publix ain't much difference unless one is going to toss in all sides.  I get your point though but press to press hmmm.

Darryl

[244]

Rich,  I respect you a lot and you have done a great job, but apples to apples is all about the press and you know that, that's like comparing  a steak from Wal-mart to a steak from Publix ain't much difference unless one is going to toss in all sides.  I get your point though but press to press hmmm.

Darryl

The presses speak for themselves. I was addressing the comment they should cost about the same.

[Frog]

Not to be a troublemaker, and I know that no one returns one, but can someone tell me the approximate non-recoup-able cost on an albeit rare return of one of these blue apples or oranges? I assume it would be crate and freight two ways. Tech set-up fees (and possible dismantling)

[Shanarchy]

If you are thinking of switching gears - Might want to look at an Anatol Titan with a rotary screw compressor as well.
Michael Jirasek
Anatol

Apples to Apples I would say compare a Titan or Horizon to the Diamondback. The Volt seems to be a different animal.

I would look at a full size Horizon, not a mini or Titan. Unless you absolutely could not fit it. Both the Horizon and Diamondback are great presses and should be priced close to each other. There's a few pros and cons between the two.

I don't want to get drawn into the comments but when comparing apple to apple and say they should be priced together a couple of very important things are constantly overlooked. One- at M&R there are fifty three field technicians available for service to our customers. Two- we have an actual twenty four hour service available to the customer three hundred and sixty five days a year. Three we have three full time print trainers on staff and offer print training for free to our customers in our facility. Four we offer a money-back guarantee if you are not happy with the equipment.!Five- we offer full preventative maintenance training in our facility with an M&R tech at your disposal. The competitor you are comparing and I could be wrong has maybe two factory techs, no after hours phone support, no print trainers on staff, and no money-back guarantee  So are you comparing apple to apple? I think not! That does not even take the equipment into comparison. Just a FYI

Re-reading my post and doing a little quick research, I slightly retract that. I'm just realizing that a Titan is a mini as well. So it should actually say "Apples to Apples I would say compare a full size Horizon (not a mini or titan) to the Diamondback."


I stand by my apples to apples though on the presses though. The Titan/mini Horizon does not have the same print size as the Diamondback. You need to go up to a full size Horizon if you are picking an Anatol to consider against the Diamondback.

I obviously could be wrong, but if you were to take the diamondback press and pick an Anatol press that is it's competitive model I'm pretty sure it would be a full size Horizon. When I last priced presses the Horizon and Diamondback were priced in the same ballpark.

Some of the pros and cons, which I wasn't looking to get into, would absolutely include after sale support, service, etc.

By saying they 'should' cost about the same wasn't meant to be an opinion to say that I feel the one is not worth more than the other or a better value. But my memory tells me they were in the same price range.

Just to make it clear, I was not/am not saying get a Horizon instead of a Diamondback. I was/am saying don't look at a Titan or mini Horizon to compare to a Diamondback.

Which ones a better buy for the OP and all that fun stuff, that's a different story all together.

[scott316]

I don't know if this is a pattern or not, but it always seems that when someone says there opinion about M&R, they take it back later in the post. I was just wondering if there was a reason for this? Do you guys get a call or message from someone? What is it that changes peoples minds?

[244]

Not to be a troublemaker, and I know that no one returns one, but can someone tell me the approximate non-recoup-able cost on an albeit rare return of one of these blue apples or oranges? I assume it would be crate and freight two ways. Tech set-up fees (and possible dismantling)

we state the installation and freight are the customers responsibility but if it was to occur and the customer had ligitimate issues we would cover everything including freight. If a customer bought for a job as an example and the order fell out then he or she would be asked to pay freight and out of pocket expense.

[GraphicDisorder]

Rich,  I respect you a lot and you have done a great job, but apples to apples is all about the press and you know that, that's like comparing  a steak from Wal-mart to a steak from Publix ain't much difference unless one is going to toss in all sides.  I get your point though but press to press hmmm.

Darryl

I hope nobody is seriously ONLY considering the presses.  Or maybe some are and that's why the end up with a press that doesn't work, isn't serviced easily, can't get good support or just flat out nobody cares.  Not tossing names but it's shocking the stuff you hear. I would highly suggest a press isn't the only thing to consider when buying a auto. 

[3Deep]

Good question Scott316,  Mr. 244 will write them out his will and take all his toys back just bullshiizing with ya,  I think the real reason is 244 is very well respected here and makes his points very clear and once people read what he post it clarify things.  Mr. 244 is a business man so I know he can take it as well as dish it out, me I 'll stand my ground too if I think I,m right until I,m proved wrong.

darryl

[3Deep]

Rich,  I respect you a lot and you have done a great job, but apples to apples is all about the press and you know that, that's like comparing  a steak from Wal-mart to a steak from Publix ain't much difference unless one is going to toss in all sides.  I get your point though but press to press hmmm.

Darryl

I hope nobody is seriously ONLY considering the presses.  Or maybe some are and that's why the end up with a press that doesn't work, isn't serviced easily, can't get good support or just flat out nobody cares.  Not tossing names but it's shocking the stuff you hear. I would highly suggest a press isn't the only thing to consider when buying a auto.

Brandt you and I are kind of in the same boat, I've had two autos an old azz multiprinter and my Anatol that I have only run, I guessing you have only owned two presses M&R's and run them.  That being said we both can only talk about hearsay of what others have said (they could be fact or not) I can't say anything bad about an M&R press because I've never owned or run one, just like you can't say anything bad about an Anatol press because you've never owned one or run one  (I know your going to have a smart ass remark to say about Anatol ) but hey I'm just stating my point, listen to advice but make up your own mind,  but I would love to see a DB and full size Horizon side by side that would be the true test.

[GraphicDisorder]

Rich,  I respect you a lot and you have done a great job, but apples to apples is all about the press and you know that, that's like comparing  a steak from Wal-mart to a steak from Publix ain't much difference unless one is going to toss in all sides.  I get your point though but press to press hmmm.

Darryl

I hope nobody is seriously ONLY considering the presses.  Or maybe some are and that's why the end up with a press that doesn't work, isn't serviced easily, can't get good support or just flat out nobody cares.  Not tossing names but it's shocking the stuff you hear. I would highly suggest a press isn't the only thing to consider when buying a auto.

Brandt you and I are kind of in the same boat, I've had two autos an old azz multiprinter and my Anatol that I have only run, I guessing you have only owned two presses M&R's and run them.  That being said we both can only talk about hearsay of what others have said (they could be fact or not) I can't say anything bad about an M&R press because I've never owned or run one, just like you can't say anything bad about an Anatol press because you've never owned one or run one  (I know your going to have a smart ass remark to say about Anatol ) but hey I'm just stating my point, listen to advice but make up your own mind,  but I would love to see a DB and full size Horizon side by side that would be the true test.

I almost bought a Anatol, you really shouldn't assume.  Fact is though I called several shops with anatols and decided from what those shops said I would be better off with a company that backs their product unlike any other in our industry no matter if you need it or not. You can't just compare autos because both companions are selling you more than a auto....they are selling you a long term relationship with them as a company.  Support, serivce, someone their to answer a question and so on. I highly suggest one considers the full picture.