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I think he was talking about the dimensional thickness rather than density thickness.Which brings up another point, will the thinner deposit be longer or shorter than the thick deposit of the same ink?pierre
Quote from: 3Deep on May 19, 2014, 12:10:24 PMPierre, after reading some of your post I see what your asking about whats going on at the bottom of the screen. From what I see it all depends on whats happen at the top..short body long body don't matter if the inks are not warm,correct squeegee, squeegee angle, print pressure, print speed, tight mesh, mesh count to me all that plays a big factor in how a ink will work. I would almost bet you and I could use the ink and it might be the root to boot in your shop and might print like crap in my shop from the way I set it up, I know all this still does not explain a long and short body ink and why it happens, but I know some inks print great for me and some don't.DarrylDarryl, your comment is the reason I am down this path. Why should the inks print different?My thinking is that if we take the lab readings on the inks and understand 99% of what is going on with them, we should ALL be able to set up our presses to get the most out of the ink. Without really understanding the ink properties we are all guessing what to do and how to print. We all find ways to make it happen, but I would rather understand the viscosity, density, tack and body and then go and set up the press to match those. I think if we truly understood those, we would all have the presses set up the same!!!does that make sense?pierre
Pierre, after reading some of your post I see what your asking about whats going on at the bottom of the screen. From what I see it all depends on whats happen at the top..short body long body don't matter if the inks are not warm,correct squeegee, squeegee angle, print pressure, print speed, tight mesh, mesh count to me all that plays a big factor in how a ink will work. I would almost bet you and I could use the ink and it might be the root to boot in your shop and might print like crap in my shop from the way I set it up, I know all this still does not explain a long and short body ink and why it happens, but I know some inks print great for me and some don't.Darryl
Another great aspect to DC printing as that, for the most part, all inks print the same so we don't have to spend time on this non-issue
That warrior white uses a duller white pigment and puffs a very large amount.... I dislike it EB, the only way to change the rheology of a super short/thick ink is to add as liquid a component as possible.... this will quickly bring the stiffness down while still keeping the short properties.
who has problems with the most expensive whites?
QuoteIf you're going to test, be aware that you may be working with a moving target with the more affordable inks.I don't think Pierre is testing a brand of ink as much the carataristics of a ink that makes it print well. I know it sounds like the same thing.
If you're going to test, be aware that you may be working with a moving target with the more affordable inks.
We should be able to get the same results from any ink at any print shop, summer, winter and humidity..