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Offline Underbase37

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2014, 05:24:10 PM »
It would probably be 2 or 3 ( probably 3 ) & 9 here too. But I did run a job last night that if this was the case I would not have been able to do. Then again if it was a 14 I would have still had the 11 heads I needed.

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2014, 06:19:26 PM »
If you didn't have heads on 1&14 you could run double index with 2 loaders/2 unloaders and do some serious production.  Not sure I'd choose this but something to consider as well.
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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2014, 07:14:38 PM »
This is a great topic.

Depending on the press, I'd be looking hard at a 12/16 type of configuration, with open heads for flashes and/or cool downs. But if the cost is peanuts (relatively) for the two missing heads than may as well get 'em. 

The more I've watched our little shop grow and learned about production the more clearly I see the need for what I used to think were excessively large presses.  Unless I'm forced to, I doubt I would get less than 14 heads when upgrading.  Much of this is related to HSA printing.  I don't know where the PVC free thing will ultimately go but if HSA becomes the new standard and doesn't further develop in opacity we're all going to need a lot more print heads and flashes going on.  Knowing what I know now I would have moved the shop into a space that could accommodate a modular oval press.  TCT wasn't joking about people in Europe needing 20 station machines. 

As far as where to put those open heads I'd probably say 1 head every 3 print heads.  Encourages a minimum of 2 colors WOW, max 3, sounds like a happy place for most jobs in terms of consistency in production and ease of setup with art and on press.

Danny has a hell of a good point.  I would give a nut to be able to double index in here later this week.  Perhaps the ovals with the lift up heads have the best layout, you can make load/offload wherever you want.  Can you do this on Sroque and MHM carousels though, simply high lift heads and convert to a double index setup?  That's a major advantage to have comfortable stations for 2x index rather than having your crew working around the flip up heads and banging knuckles all day.

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2014, 07:46:01 PM »
MHM lifting the head.
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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2014, 07:57:38 PM »
Nice. I once new a shop that would take two heads off the press & do this when they got 100k + orders. This would make that much easier. I like Danny's idea because you could still use one dryer.

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2014, 09:19:29 PM »
Wow, so the extreme has high lift and crazy high lift. 

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2014, 09:41:01 PM »
when I used to be a touring DJ

Wait a minute back up. Off subject but your not getting off that easy.
What was your alias. Do you still kick around the 1s & 2s?
"Noooobody can mix like mix master Mike"

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2014, 10:35:18 PM »
TCT wasn't joking about people in Europe needing 20 station machines. 


Dude, I just saw pics from a install in Indonesia I believe.... 56 station, 18 colors, 17 flashes! :-[ Thing is a beast! I can find pics if you guys want, but I must warn you, it's not blue :o

Danny has a good idea with the double indexing also, but then we are taking HIGH volume to make that profitable. What I was saying with the 3 open loading/unloading positions is: 1 person unloads, 1 throws the shirt on, 1 actually positions it and smooths it. Again HIGH production setting, fun to play the "what if" game though!
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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2014, 10:38:16 PM »
when I used to be a touring DJ


Wait a minute back up. Off subject but your not getting off that easy.
What was your alias. Do you still kick around the 1s & 2s?
"Noooobody can mix like mix master Mike"

Murphy37


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Offline Underbase37

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2014, 01:47:55 AM »
Dude, I just saw pics from a install in Indonesia I believe.... 56 station, 18 colors, 17 flashes! :-[ Thing is a beast! I can find pics if you guys want, but I must warn you, it's not blue :o

You have my attention.:P
Some T-shirt porn please.
You can always pant it BLUE.

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2014, 01:18:48 PM »
Oh man, I'm gonna regret mentioning that, huh. Lol

Ps, didn't make the hights of the Beasti Boys like mixmaster Mike. Different genre all together. But it was 20 years of bass  :P
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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2014, 01:29:44 PM »
Oh man, I'm gonna regret mentioning that, huh. Lol

Ps, didn't make the hights of the Beasti Boys like mixmaster Mike. Different genre all together. But it was 20 years of bass  :P

I can see mike spinning that dback back and fourth like turn table.  wait till you get that second press, then you will be spinning the 1's and 2's! 8)
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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2014, 01:35:38 PM »
Hey, 140 BPM is a good marching beat for loading a press:)

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Re: Making color count choice for new auto?
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2014, 02:11:18 PM »
Lol, you guys are awesome!  How did you know 140 bpm was my production tempo. Ill send y'all a butt load of cds if you want.http://www.maliciousrecordings.com/producers.htm

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