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Offline jason-23

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Plasti charge???
« on: May 14, 2014, 08:32:58 AM »
Somebody talk to me about plasti charge, how it works, who carries it, emulsion, printing multi colors, flashing??? I have a job coming up and it's for a body building group and thick ass plastisol isn't going to fly. Thanks in advance


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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 09:01:34 AM »
Union Ink makes one. Comes in a plain base and a white base. The activator is a powder. You mix your plastisol into the base roughly 50/50, then add the activator at about 6% by weight.
It's water-based, so you've gotta really stir up the stuff since you're essentially mixing water and oil.
Doesn't seem to dry particularly quickly in the screen during printing, but keep it flooded and scrape out and discard unused ink, then straight to the washout sink and work it over with your ink degradent.
Check and see if Tubelite has any in stock. It's where I bought mine.
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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 09:16:47 AM »
Also Wilflex and probably Rutland. Its a hybrid ink. Some colors not possible due to dilution. I consider it to be the red-headed step cousin of discharge. Good for those not comfortable with formulating DC colors.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 09:19:06 AM »
Ok cool thanks, question: do you need to flash between colors?

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 09:50:59 AM »
Its a hybrid ink. Some colors not possible due to dilution.

Like red. In my experience with the stuff it turned all my colors pastel, then I shelved it.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2014, 10:14:28 AM »
We use this quite a bit. The white is more of a off white, still good but not titanium white. The clear base to mix colors in 50/50 works well too, as some have already said some colors don't work as well, but I will say that if you have time to play with it a bit you can get some good colors ( reds ). Maybe try less of a 50/50 mix & less %ZFS;)
As far as flashing goes in my experience you don't need to but depending on what you have going on, or on top a quick one will do, NO NEED to bake it.

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« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 10:16:36 AM by Underbase37 »

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 10:18:11 AM »
Pastel everything for me. I only noticed that because I gave up on using it for a job that used fairly light colors and they were much brighter in plain plastisol. I had some other problem with it that I can't remember. I do recall that the base separated on me and I didn't know it for the first test. I just sort of assumed that ink bases stay homogenous, whoops! This was using the recommended MIXO series as well. Couldn't you just add a ton of curable reducer and achieve the same effect, so long as the ink is high pigment?

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2014, 10:29:01 AM »
This is not the best cell phone pic but this is a two color on black with plasticharge white & red. This has been washed.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2014, 10:33:13 AM »
This is the design I have to print minus the diamond plate background on black.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2014, 10:45:06 AM »
This is not the best cell phone pic but this is a two color on black with plasticharge white & red
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Both of those are plasticharge? Red and white? Or white base with regular red pastisol over the white? What ratio do you use if not 50/50? I never understood why the activator was supposed to be 6% based off the TOTAL weight of the 50/50 mix.  Should it be 6% of only the pasticharge additive weight?

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2014, 10:51:35 AM »
No 6% of total volume

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2014, 10:54:44 AM »
Yes both of them are straight plasticharge. The white is more of a off-white not titanium white. When I get in the shop I'll look up the ratio.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2014, 11:08:17 AM »
Pastel everything for me. I only noticed that because I gave up on using it for a job that used fairly light colors and they were much brighter in plain plastisol. I had some other problem with it that I can't remember. I do recall that the base separated on me and I didn't know it for the first test. I just sort of assumed that ink bases stay homogenous, whoops! This was using the recommended MIXO series as well. Couldn't you just add a ton of curable reducer and achieve the same effect, so long as the ink is high pigment?
Basically no. Curable reducer+ high pig do not= opaque. Also some HO plastisol inks will not work with the aqueous component but do make for some brightly colored cottage cheese.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2014, 11:31:45 AM »
I guess I had better run some shirts for my shop with some plasticharge since I have a good part of a gallon left and looking at the examples here.

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Re: Plasti charge???
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2014, 12:00:11 PM »
Sorry crazy here, we're trying to get production done before the beer Olympics starts in our parking lot.
Try around 65/35 ratio & around %4-%3 ZFS
I would have to do some digging but its something like that.

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« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 09:25:44 PM by Underbase37 »