Antique equipment club

[mpot]

The Precision was electric. No hydraulics.

[Frog]

Who can guess what this is for, and it still good believe it or not

Darryl

We've used paper gummed tape with a wet dispenser to tape screens in the old days.

[tonypep]

The Precision was electric. No hydraulics.

The hydraulic ovals were beasts. Fluid is easier to accel and decel than air (or was back then) and you could really crank them up past Precisions recommendations. But, many people overrode the saftey on the master print head. Dangerous. At Winterland one guy got his skull crushed. Died instantly. You need to respect hydraulics.

[Sbrem]

Who can guess what this is for, and it still good believe it or not

Darryl

We've used paper gummed tape with a wet dispenser to tape screens in the old days.

ditto on the kraft tape. Getting it off was a bit of work, but if you let it soak in warm water, it loosened up pretty well.

Steve

[Frog]

I seem to remember sticky fingers from its application.

[3Deep]

Years ago I bought some screens and they had that paper tape all over them, being new in the biz back then I didn't know how to clean them.  I ended up tossing some nice screens until an old buddy told me to use soapy water and let them sit some, paper just melted right off.

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[kirkage]

10 foot harco dryer from 1987 still running strong. I replaced the temp control with a digital. It's a tank. I could take the legs off of it and cruise around town on it.

Is that the one with the belt re-tracking gadget?

Sorry frog, didn't see your question. Yes it has the re-tracking gadget. I removed it and added a piece of rubber around the rollers (about 12" wide) and it never moves side to side. Poor man's crown roller.

[ScreenFoo]

Gummed tape... awesome.   I always loved it when that tape was described as "tightening up the screen".
Soooo.... exactly how much tension did you have on that screen to start with?   


I'm jealous, the only vintage gear I get to use here is an old Hopkins, and EVERYONE has one of those. 

[Frog]

Gummed tape... awesome.   I always loved it when that tape was described as "tightening up the screen".
Soooo.... exactly how much tension did you have on that screen to start with?   


I'm jealous, the only vintage gear I get to use here is an old Hopkins, and EVERYONE has one of those.

There used to be a really fast dry block out from, I think Southwestern. It was made with some really fast evaporating solvent base, and was really poor for tight register screens as it would actually shrink the mesh as it dried.

[Sbrem]

Gummed tape... awesome.   I always loved it when that tape was described as "tightening up the screen".
Soooo.... exactly how much tension did you have on that screen to start with?   


I'm jealous, the only vintage gear I get to use here is an old Hopkins, and EVERYONE has one of those.

There used to be a really fast dry block out from, I think Southwestern. It was made with some really fast evaporating solvent base, and was really poor for tight register screens as it would actually shrink the mesh as it dried.

That would be on stapled mesh perhaps? the kind of tension that registers 0 on a meter?

Steve

[Frog]

Gummed tape... awesome.   I always loved it when that tape was described as "tightening up the screen".
Soooo.... exactly how much tension did you have on that screen to start with?   


I'm jealous, the only vintage gear I get to use here is an old Hopkins, and EVERYONE has one of those.

There used to be a really fast dry block out from, I think Southwestern. It was made with some really fast evaporating solvent base, and was really poor for tight register screens as it would actually shrink the mesh as it dried.

That would be on stapled mesh perhaps? the kind of tension that registers 0 on a meter?

Steve

The gummed tape was probably mostly on stapled screens (or the early re-tensionable, cord and groove), but my Kwik Dry reg problems were with standard well tensioned stretch and glues.

[3Deep]

Sometimes I feel like the antique printing on new equipment, I use to have some old screen frames that you push the cord in to attach the mesh...wish I had kept some around.

[ScreenFoo]

How many you want?   

[mk162]

The hydraulic ovals were beasts. Fluid is easier to accel and decel than air (or was back then) and you could really crank them up past Precisions recommendations. But, many people overrode the saftey on the master print head. Dangerous. At Winterland one guy got his skull crushed. Died instantly. You need to respect hydraulics.

that is just terrible.  on a side note, that sort of thing really hurt the small plane industry in the 90's.  People wouldn't properly maintain their planes and they would crash and family would sue the manufacturer.  I am surprised it never happened that way with cars.

hydraulics are a totally different league than pneumatics.  You can briefly hold a gaunlet from indexing with your hands...servo will rip your arms off without realizing it did anything.

[tonypep]

The problem was linked to the flash. The Precision flash would trip the safety and the mainframe would rise instantly. The machine would essentially freeze, often causing the shirt to scorch or burn. A quick wire disconnect would bypass the safety.