11 Autos under 1 roof

[Mr Tees!!]

And here it is

Tony, I notice in this pic that presses are arranged so that processed good are toward the outer edges of the building, and the presses are more centrally located near the middle of the building. Is there a reason for this that I cant think of? Seems to me like the opposite would allow for better flow of goods, and would keep possible mess (inks and such) out of the main central path of the production floor.

(Not that there is any mess, it actually looks really clean, nice shiny floor and stuff. Probably have a crew devoted just to screenprint-specific janitorial duties, I would imagine. I bet the amount of lint in a place like this can be absolutely staggering.)

[starchild]

I wonder what kind of monthly salary an owner of an operation of that complexity takes home?

Moving 100 -1 color to 2 color max, shirts daily with a $10 net profit on each, daily, is like $1000 per day or $30,000 per month.. And that's with one manual press.. That's hmm.. 20 sales in 5 different shops per day..

With that kind of complexity I can only imagine.. He probably buys a new jet every year..



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$10 per shirt in profit? Not in your wildest dreams. Most of these places you are looking at $0.10 of profit per shirt.

pierre

That is what I'm asking.. For the complexity involved in doing business, what's the salary like for the owner? The reward must be obscene..

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[ebscreen]

Let's say 30 million impressions/year, 51 working weeks.
Let's also say 30 presses.
Roughs out to about 4000 impressions per day/machine. Completely doable, even in one shift.
Let's say they get $0.25 per print. Some probably less, some probably more.
That's $7,500,000 a year.

Let's say 3 people per press, and given it's the midwest, $12/hr.
3x$12x8x5x30x51= $2.25 mil in basic wages.
Let's call it $3.5 mil when all is said and done.

Leaves you a cool $4 mil for rent and utilities etc. with a little left over for yourself.

[RICK STEFANICK]

art fx in Norfolk is running 20 there and like 10 in charlotte

[Dottonedan]

I think the thing that I've been neglecting is that I should remember to appreciate where these guys are at. They apparently like that part of the business and are apparently efficient at the process. So Kudo's to them.


It would be a long hard road to get there, no matter the Marketing they use so they must be doing something right.
I hope for their sake, they are able to keep up the momentum.

[jsheridan]

Um, is that Lake Shirts? Because if it is, then my while point goes out the window and I have been HEAVILY mis informed!

Yes it's them.





 

[tonypep]

Never been to Paramount. Largest employer in Bourbon Missouri. 80 ys in business. The layout is similar to what Fortune Fashions was. In the foreground there is a "parking lot" for raw goods, safely away from inks, etc. This is the staging area. Similarly there were "go carts" with inks, screens, print instructions, work orders, and samples staged in a separate parking lot. The supervisors and team leaders are charged with marrying the goods to go carts. The presses themselves would have staging areas where the next job or jobs (depending on volume of order) are parked so the press ops hover around their work areas without having to scout out the parts and pieces of the next order. Its pretty much the only way you can run such a large operation however I always try to emulate this proceduralization in any shop. Even if its a one auto company. Its a mindset.

[blue moon]

Let's say 30 million impressions/year, 51 working weeks.
Let's also say 30 presses.
Roughs out to about 4000 impressions per day/machine. Completely doable, even in one shift.
Let's say they get $0.25 per print. Some probably less, some probably more.
That's $7,500,000 a year.

Let's say 3 people per press, and given it's the midwest, $12/hr.
3x$12x8x5x30x51= $2.25 mil in basic wages.
Let's call it $3.5 mil when all is said and done.

Leaves you a cool $4 mil for rent and utilities etc. with a little left over for yourself.

considering the industry and the size of the business, they should be in 2-10% net profit. That makes the profit $750K in the best case scenario. Nothing to sneeze at, but a far cry from what can be made in some other industries on such sales volume.

pierre

[tonypep]

BTW Paramount is a Nike shop primarily so I'll wager they do a good bit better than .10. When I printed for Nike they paid quite well. You're up early Pierre.

[balloonguy]

My main business is a much different animal but a few years back ALL the big guys went under. The only ones that made were the balloon dippers and the little guys. The dippers would be the hanes and gildan in this field. The home base garage printers suffered but made it through on low over head. There were 2 shops were about 8x my annual volume (my volume is roughly 1.2 million pieces) that both went bankrupt. There were a few others that were 3 - 5x my volume and they were absorbed by the dippers. We actually made it because we have the shirts too. Business has actually become much better for me because many of the guys that used to be in my market are now gone. My point is that bigger is not always better. I know there is money to be made but like anything else there is a downside too.

[tonypep]

Agreed big=not much fun to work at as well.

[brandon]

Think of all that poly bagging and bar codes and stickers and exact, exact shipping instructions. (Box must be this tall and wide, Box must be under x amount of weight, do not stack boxes more than x high, boxes must be made by Elves, and must face North at all time...)

Just as much goes into after the press as before it

[blue moon]

BTW Paramount is a Nike shop primarily so I'll wager they do a good bit better than .10. When I printed for Nike they paid quite well. You're up early Pierre.

I was talking net profit. After all the payroll, equipment payments, loan payments, rent, supplies, marketing, taxes, yadie, yadie, yada . . . they would be doing well if they clear $0.10 per shirt. If they are selling the garment too, there is a little more to be made, but the overhead is higher too. At 400K yearly impressions per press, that makes them $40k of profit per press per shift. At 30 presses, that's $1.2MM. That's nothing to sneeze at. 

pierre

[royster13]

The big operations like Atlas, Target, etc. spend a fortune on direct mail, trade print advertising, trade shows, etc.....As soon as sales slow down they have a problem with overhead so they need to keep things moving....All the big players are at the PPAI Expo this week...