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Offline tonypep

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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2011, 02:43:45 PM »
BTW it appears Rutland is mimicking Polyone (or is it the other way around?) by phasing some old standbys and going all pthalate free.
Got me some Streetfighter White to sample next week.


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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »

And I thought Colin was done working at QCM?

Unfortunately you are correct Homer.

I got laid off May 20th and I am looking for full time work.  Anyone have a job open that needs my broad skill set?
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2011, 08:42:12 PM »
QCM!

Check with Colin and get setup as a QCM dealer. Our dealer here in North Alabama is going out of business and I want someone who stocks things. Infact they have a slew of stuff they are wanting to liquidate. I just couldn't justify buying all that ink right now. If you get setup with QCM I will be your first customer!

Bill

That seems to be up to Rutland now.....   :'(
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2011, 08:45:09 PM »
...second vote on the QCM, especailly if you guys are still plannin to visit us in town periodically!
We will be back.... We go where we are needed, and Atlanta seems to be the hot spot right now, but you can be sure SC is in our sights  ;)
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2011, 08:56:31 PM »
I see.. . that's why you are the supplier and I am the printer haha. . .I often wonder, with all these whites available-  if the chemists at the manufacturers ever walk over to the window and yell " WHAT THE FK DO YOU PRINTERS WANT?". . .i mean, there are SOOO many whites on the market. . .and they are all some what comparable, but everyone has their likes and dislikes.

Exactly.... The differences in many cases are small, but you could say the same about Coke and Pepsi  ;) (Personally I think Pepsi Sux!!!)

I have found from my own experiences, that it's not so much the ink itself, but the company I buy it from that has a lot to do with my opinion of it. but again, that's just me.

You are absolutely right.... Some mix of service, price, and product quality is what a supplier like me uses to gain a customer like you..... ;D
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2011, 09:26:49 PM »
Pwalsh -you reading this buddy? Colin is looking for a job. . nudge nudge. . I'm sure you have a spot somewhere for his expertise?

he will even relocate, work long thankless hours, listen to customers complain about nonsense, wait 30 days to get paid and get orders out the door at the last minute. . . ;D
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2011, 11:21:43 PM »
brandon, your region is the southeast. are you going to ship inks across the  country? doubtful that you would be competitive. you need to call on printers in nc,sc,ga,tenn and find out what they are running also because thats who you will be selling to most likley. It is kind of unlikly you will convert a 5 year rutland or union guy over to another system, especially if he  has a good relationship with his current supplier. I would find out what YOUR COMPETITION is selling, get their pricing then evaluate your business plan befor moving forward.. just my.02
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2011, 05:59:32 AM »
Pwalsh -you reading this buddy? Colin is looking for a job. . nudge nudge. . I'm sure you have a spot somewhere for his expertise?

he will even relocate, work long thankless hours, listen to customers complain about nonsense, wait 30 days to get paid and get orders out the door at the last minute. . . ;D
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2011, 08:10:44 PM »
To Homer and Tonypep,

Thanks!
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2011, 08:37:43 AM »
brandon, your region is the southeast. are you going to ship inks across the  country? doubtful that you would be competitive. you need to call on printers in nc,sc,ga,tenn and find out what they are running also because thats who you will be selling to most likley.


The south east is definitely where we will expend 98% of our time and energy. I hope to one day have a strong online/nation wide presence, but that will have to come in time. 

It is kind of unlikly you will convert a 5 year rutland or union guy over to another system, especially if he  has a good relationship with his current supplier. I would find out what YOUR COMPETITION is selling, get their pricing then evaluate your business plan befor moving forward.. just my.02

Wilflex is king in Georgia (their manufacturing facility is in Kennesaw GA), when you move into the surrounding states it starts mixing up a bit more. You might be surprised.... From what I’ve found, some mix of Price, Service, and Product Quality can convert almost any shop... My job is to find the appropriate mix for the customer.... ;)
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2011, 08:54:10 AM »
Service is a HUGE one for me.  I am not a great planner...I am getting better though.  It's nice to have a wilflex distributor right next door.

I have to say though Brannon, that the house brand of inks you used to sell from the company that will remain nameless weren't that good.  The price was, but Wilflex most certainly prints better.

I would rather spend an extra $20 a gallon for ink if it doesn't build up and has better all around printing properties.  Price isn't as big of an issue as performance for me.  I like to make it as easy as possible on me and my folks.

Although it is an added bonus when something is cheaper and works as good or better.

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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2011, 09:30:43 AM »
Service is a HUGE one for me.  I am not a great planner...I am getting better though.  It's nice to have a wilflex distributor right next door.

I have to say though Brannon, that the house brand of inks you used to sell from the company that will remain nameless weren't that good.  The price was, but Wilflex most certainly prints better.

Wilflex is a great product line... And yes that house brand definitely did not print as well... But you may be surprised at how much of it we sold... ;)

I would rather spend an extra $20 a gallon for ink if it doesn't build up and has better all around printing properties.  Price isn't as big of an issue as performance for me.  I like to make it as easy as possible on me and my folks.

Although it is an added bonus when something is cheaper and works as good or better.

I hope we end up with a product that is as good or better.... As a supplier not having ink and chemistry is seriously limiting our growth, so even if we end up with house brand quality for now, I know we can sell it.... The main reason I put out this post was for red flags (That ink sux.. It ruined X number of shirts, etc) and so far I haven’t seen any of those... We actually met with a very talented printer yesterday; he specializes in sim process, lots of colors, really nice stuff. He has already promised us his business if we bring in Excalibur (He currently uses Wilflex). That, to me, was a very good sign!! 
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2011, 09:38:32 AM »
Update.....

Just got shot down by Rutland/Union/QCM... :'(

Wilflex has been off of the table... :'(

Excalibur it is!!! Watch out Atlanta... Here we come  ;D

We hope to have a full color line, black, and 3 whites in place by mid September!!!
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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2011, 09:50:51 AM »
Does that include free 5 gallon samples?  If so, I'll try all 3 whites.

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Re: Time to get ink.....
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2011, 09:54:01 AM »
Let us know when you have it, and make it affordable of course :)

I'm OK with a gallon samples  ;D