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Offline ScreenFoo

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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 09:39:44 PM »
I'm sure that's still where most of the bread and butter is for them. 
They do work with companies that are willing to do huge minimums for application later--their big pull is the glue, which supposedly will transfer decades after they make the transfer--so I doubt 'retail' is much on the radar for them.



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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 09:51:54 PM »
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Sounds like a good time.  ;)

So how did the flocked letters and what not get so popular back in the day if it's such an elaborate, expensive process?

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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 03:58:14 PM »
Just got a request for flock.  It's black on black, 500+ pcs, kind of want to go for it.

Here's all I know so far:

You can get a 'suede' or 'velvet' effect from the adhered rayon (or nylon) fibers.  Suede can be achieved as simply as printing adhesive, shaking on and shaking off, messy but sounds easy.  Velvet needs the electrostatic wand applier do hickey which is around $1300 I believe and is the same process but the electrowand will stand up the fibers on end, creating the velvet effect.  From here the same technique gets fancier and much more expensive but also more production friendly. 

You can get cad cut and it looks like full sheets of flock that you reverse print adhesive onto as Colin mentioned and then heat press. 

I'm leaning toward cad cut and heat press if it's velvet, shake 'n bake if it's suede.  We only have a cap heat press so I'll need to invest in something if it's velvet one way or another for the job but am willing if the profits there to cover it.

Thoughts?


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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2012, 08:30:17 PM »
Hey Zoo.
The easiest way to get your feet wet with this is to buy the sheets of Flock. Print with glue the image directly onto the garment. Cut the flock into the needed size, then heat press.
We have used X-Glue from Rutland with good success. We up charge about $3 per unit even on good size volume to make it worth while.
Hope this helps man.
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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2012, 08:34:57 PM »
If suede is the look they want, you may also want to play with the suede additive for standard plastisol. It's the same as what's used for dulling, but mixed in a higher percentage.
I use the 222 from IC http://www.iccink.com/pdfs/Plastisol%20Additives-10-06-10.pdf
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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2012, 10:21:34 PM »
Hey Zoo.
The easiest way to get your feet wet with this is to buy the sheets of Flock. Print with glue the image directly onto the garment. Cut the flock into the needed size, then heat press.
We have used X-Glue from Rutland with good success. We up charge about $3 per unit even on good size volume to make it worth while.
Hope this helps man.
Paul

Totally helps, thx.  Might I be so bold as to ask where you find the flock sheets?  Pm if you don't want it public.

Frogger, I think it's velvet and I sure thought of using a lo puff at first but there's issues there with black lightening up, even at 'suede' levels of additive. 

I it's not velvet I may well try to print adhesive and sprinkle/shake it on.  If velvet, I'm probably going with Lux's route though it involves purchasing a larger heat press.

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Re: Flock Printing?
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 12:07:51 AM »
No worries.
We get it either from Matsui or from Westix on Escondido Calif.
Gotta get a heat press to handle the size and you're all set.
Good luck, call me if you need any help.
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