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Offline Dottonedan

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straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« on: June 06, 2012, 02:24:23 PM »
Mix white + straight 4 color process   (Wet on Wet).

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 08:17:37 PM »
wait, that looks like a white shirt! Why would you print an underbase?

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 08:24:41 PM »
wait, that looks like a white shirt! Why would you print an underbase?

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That's and easy one to answer. White underbase is another color. We make more money for every color. No really I have heard of this alot. You print white down first so that the 4 color process will print smoother. It fills the weave of teh shirt and leaves you with a smooth area to print on. (never done it but I would think the wet white would mess with the other inks. 

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 09:01:39 PM »
Which helps control dot gain as well--especially in the highlight areas...

Got a bit of Unions process white to play with the next time a job like this comes my way--I've only played with a process+seriously modified white on my own time, but the results were worth looking into, IMO.

Killer print--nice highlights.    ;)

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 04:05:17 PM »
looks good! do you know the print order? wondering if magenta was after the yellow, it looks like a bit too much magenta (the fade in the nose looks a bit harsh)

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 08:25:05 PM »
well i hope the magenta was after the yellow. I print all my process work ymck or sometimes kymc  at times
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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 09:36:35 PM »
looks good! do you know the print order? wondering if magenta was after the yellow, it looks like a bit too much magenta (the fade in the nose looks a bit harsh)


1 white
2 Y
3 M
4 C
5 k


The nose and magenta lay down is pretty accurate. Had I not seen the original, i might have assumed the same thing. I personally prefer a smoother blend on that nose, but that is not what was in the art. I did have it blending out just a little more but sometimes you take what you get when the customer is ready to pick up. I do not work on site and don't have any opportunity to make my own revisions before sending off to the customer like when I worked for one company in house.

 So I try to provide in the sepa what I see in the art and then the printers do what they need to. Most times they are doing a great job. All in all, this one turned out really good. I was most impressed by the wide semi consistant coverage of dark areas.  Good shadow tones.



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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 06:39:36 AM »
This is sometimes referred to as a "wet white" as it is often not flashed. It helps broaden the tonal range especially if there are subtle pastel shades. Looks great!

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Re: straight 4 color process + white base (Wet on Wet).
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 07:11:25 AM »
Looks great.

Who did the separations?  :P