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Offline Mark @ Hurricane Printing

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so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« on: April 06, 2012, 07:17:25 PM »
I have a possible order of 500 golf towels headed my way...the logo is 2 colors..a dark maroon and a grey...is there a grey waterbased ink? I have never printed waterbased before. I have the waterbased emulsion already..and I've also been told to use a 80 mesh screen. So just looking to pointers gang..any help would be appreciated.
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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2012, 08:33:08 PM »
I have a possible order of 500 golf towels headed my way...the logo is 2 colors..a dark maroon and a grey...is there a grey waterbased ink? I have never printed waterbased before. I have the waterbased emulsion already..and I've also been told to use a 80 mesh screen. So just looking to pointers gang..any help would be appreciated.

Call Westix in southern California and tell them what your looking to do. They will set you up.


Grey = white + black, like any other ink mix.

I would use some pre-mixed RFU inks from Matsui. For towels, you will want to thin out the ink a bit with plain water, and add a little penetrant. This helps the ink "wick" into the towel fibers so it doesn't sit on top. (better feel for towels...)

80-110 mesh should work. Note that fine detail and towels rarely mix. Make sure the art they are expecting you to print does not require a tightly knit substrate.
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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 08:42:07 PM »
another tip would be to run a looser tension screen with no off contact. this will help you get much better penetration. we use sericol waterbase inks with great results..
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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 11:56:09 PM »
Not to get this thread off track but is there a difference in curing water base vs water base discharge? And yes black and white make gray. Start with white and add black into you get your desired shade.

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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 05:05:52 AM »
To pass along something from another forum, it appears the Westix online presence has disappeared from the interwebs, and apparently some folks have had difficulty in reaching them by other means. One mentioned something about a merger. Just passing this along since this resource is apparently unavailable presently.
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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 10:03:07 AM »
Not to get this thread off track but is there a difference in curing water base vs water base discharge? And yes black and white make gray. Start with white and add black into you get your desired shade.

While you can certainly make gray this way you'll see in the Sericol pantone formulas that they use colors to make gray which is technically more correct. I use a 70/30 base to white ratio and shade with black PC. No hand and easier to print.

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Re: so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 11:41:46 AM »
Yeah their is definitely more to gray than black and white but a standard gray is just that. Other 'shades of gray' will have some yellow or blue in them.

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so is there a grey waterbased ink?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 11:50:14 AM »
Just got a pc color matching system for matsui. Theoretically one can mix any type of warm grey cool grey warm black that Pantone lists in their hyper priced flippy books. My first quarts of custom were super neato.
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