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Offline Sbrem

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Wilflex Nupuff base
« on: May 13, 2021, 03:38:31 PM »
So, we have rush for tomorrow, and only puff base. I can't seem to find the correct ratio of white ink to puff base anywhere, does anyone have experience with that base?

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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2021, 02:14:47 PM »
https://sourceone.nazdar.com/portals/0/tds/Wilflex-NuPuffBase.pdf

Well shoot, That PIB won't help you.

Back in the day the Union product was 25% base added to white.
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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2021, 05:21:13 PM »
we tested, and it ended up 2:1, base to white. It was kind of gross, but the end user loves it, go figure.

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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2021, 06:17:01 PM »
After looking at the meager Wilflex  tech info, it kinda' appeared to me that this is truly a base meant to mixed with their various pigments for best results. Not like a puff "additive" for RFU inks
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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2021, 02:31:18 PM »
Yep.  That’s what I understood last week. There is a Puff additive and there is a Puff base. The Base (from the spec given to me by Ray Smith at Wilflex/Union/Rustland/Polyone/Avient er whatever these days, was 20% puff base, 80% ink (for a puff screen).   I gather that the "additive” is to make things more opaque or slightly dimensional but not really puffing.  If I remember right.


BUT, like Sbrem,  we ended up with probable about 40% puff base added (before I was able to get that info to the ink mixer/printer).  For what we were doing and trying to achieve, it worked...but it still wasn’t all that extreme.  We currently have a small 8'dryer, so that may have played a role.
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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2021, 03:08:51 PM »
For what we were doing and trying to achieve, it worked...but it still wasn’t all that extreme.  We currently have a small 8'dryer, so that may have played a role.

I'm not so sure about that. My first few years I used a four foot Ranar Scamp dryer without even an enclosed tunnel, virtually just a panel suspended above a small belt. Puff was big then, and with the proper RTU inks from Union, it worked great!
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Re: Wilflex Nupuff base
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2021, 10:12:20 AM »
Ours was extreme, to match what was already on the front. I prefer a suede base over puff, but we have no call for it at all...

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