Those were both fonts that I have actually used in the past with no embellishments.
The problem was they were from prints made over 12 years ago and the files saved were png, or jpgs so no font identification to come up.
I spent the time to apply each one currently installed with no match. I have upgraded this pc more than once since and not all fonts are installed. Installing them all would would make the same effort a bloody nighmare, lol.
Oh well.
