CCI Fox Red

[ZooCity]

beware, Sericol is not interested in small accounts and it will show in their dealing with you. Atlas might be a good workaround as it would provide you with the customer service Sericol lacks (unless something changed since I tried to do business with them a couple of years back).

pierre

Sericol definitely is more interested in selling drums of ink v. buckets.  However, when we bought the DC RFU system a few years back we had a rep who was great, gave us excellent direct pricing and explained that selling gallons is a new thing for them and to bear with.  No issues that I can remember with service or sales.  They seemed genuinely interested in the "smaller" orders at the time but I'm sure that can change rapidly in a company as large as fujifilm.   It sounds like maybe they went back to just doing drums and are no longer as interested in the gallon sales.

[ericheartsu]

beware, Sericol is not interested in small accounts and it will show in their dealing with you. Atlas might be a good workaround as it would provide you with the customer service Sericol lacks (unless something changed since I tried to do business with them a couple of years back).

pierre

Sericol definitely is more interested in selling drums of ink v. buckets.  However, when we bought the DC RFU system a few years back we had a rep who was great, gave us excellent direct pricing and explained that selling gallons is a new thing for them and to bear with.  No issues that I can remember with service or sales.  They seemed genuinely interested in the "smaller" orders at the time but I'm sure that can change rapidly in a company as large as fujifilm.   It sounds like maybe they went back to just doing drums and are no longer as interested in the gallon sales.

we worked with them frequently, up until recently when they "forgot" to ship a $3k ink order to us. delayed the order by a week, and it still hadn't shipped, so we started working with a local supplier who carried their inks, and got us even more of a discount. That was the only hiccup in our 3 year relationship.

[Orion]

My experience with the CCI fox red is, it dries out quickly and gets very pasty, which leads me to believe it's a fluorescent base/pigment with standard red shade pigments added to it. The sericol texcharge red yellow shade with a small percentage of rhodamine red pigment added to it yields a very nice red, imho...

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

My experience with the CCI fox red is, it dries out quickly and gets very pasty, which leads me to believe it's a fluorescent base/pigment with standard red shade pigments added to it. The sericol texcharge red yellow shade with a small percentage of rhodamine red pigment added to it yields a very nice red, imho...

I just got a sample of CCI's Fox Red but haven't run any yet.

I get a pretty nice red by adding Matsui's Neo Red Pigment to Sericol's Texcharge Yellow Shade Red and activating with 3% ZFX. 

It doesn't dry out too bad, but I'd like to try a little Rhodamine too.



Stan

P.S. Orion, here is exactly my above red. (I do this in 200 gram multiples.) 100 grams of Texcharge Yellow Shade Red, 90 grams of CCI Premium Base, 10 grams of Matsui Neo Red, 6 grams of ZFS (3%) and an additional 3% of Matsui penetrant.  How much Rhodamine do you add to your YS Red? I know this is off topic, so you could PM me if  you like. Thanks!....

[Orion]

Ooops...misspoke earlier it is "rubine red" pigment.

CrOoked..pm on the way.

[ZooCity]

For those of you on the CCI CMS system, the best red we got was 185c right out of the book, 75% Warm/25% Rubine, 3% activator in case it's helpful.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Good to know, Zoo!

I landed on my Frankenstein Mishmash before I switched over to CCI.
E.V.E.R.Y  SINGLE thing I tried for WBDC Reds failed miserably, until I learned I could modify the YS Red from Sericol.

But now that I've almost entirely converted over to CCI, I'll try your mix.

And I've still got to run some Fox Red! (We're just pretty busy right now, and I'm still learning about my auto.)