Author Topic: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration  (Read 2548 times)

Offline jvanick

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We got a contract order in to print a bunch of Gildan Tie Dye... I tried to do a quick search and didn't find anything...

Anybody have any experience printing on these with white ink?  Anything to watch out for?

-J


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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2015, 12:16:26 PM »
We got a contract order in to print a bunch of Gildan Tie Dye... I tried to do a quick search and didn't find anything...

Anybody have any experience printing on these with white ink?  Anything to watch out for?

-J


A search for tie dye turned up this http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,13201.msg127218.html#msg127218
searched while on the forum page rather than this section specifically.
Specific sections seem to limit searches greatly.

Adding Gildan doesn't help and doesn't change how the garments will act either. I find cotton fabric and procion dye is cotton fabric and procion dye.
I do not know if how well they are fixed afterward is an issue, but I just print 'em, mostly DIY from a Boy Scout troop, usually with just cotton ink, and do fine. Low bleed certainly shouldn't hurt, but anything fancier than that, I think is overkill.
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2015, 12:23:43 PM »
Pigment dyed will bleed. Reactive dye, supposedly, does not bleed.
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2015, 12:24:31 PM »
any good tests for what kind of ink/how much of a bleeder?

maybe pure plasticizer on the heat press in a non-visible part of the shirt?

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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2015, 12:32:00 PM »
Procion dye, the one used for commercial Tie Dye (and most good DIY) since I was a wee psychedelic tadpole, is a reactive dye.
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2015, 12:38:09 PM »
We always go for a low-bleed, but not a full on poly. No issues yet and we print a disturbing amount of tie-dye.

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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2015, 12:39:30 PM »
any good tests for what kind of ink/how much of a bleeder?

maybe pure plasticizer on the heat press in a non-visible part of the shirt?


If your spot cleaning gun removes the dye, definitely pig dyed. You run pig dye too hot through your dryer you will get dye migration.
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 11:23:54 AM »
Hey Jvanick,

Give that War Paint a test on one of these shirts .. You will be surprised, on the feel and bleed block.. 
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 12:26:09 PM »
I'd love to, but this is a VERY picky contract customer, and I can't take the chance of something going wrong... we've been stuck in contract-printing hell the last week.. hoping to return to my normal (non-picky) customer's this afternoon or tomorrow so we can do some r&d/experimenting with the war paint as well as the hybrid white you sent.

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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 08:53:45 PM »
Our experience with tie-dye is that it is a bitch! The ones I'm talking about are from Colortone. Needed a dye blocking great AND I think 2 polly whites.

Ask Mike at Evolutionary what he does, we dumped the cuttings on him! ;)
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Re: Gildan Tie-Dye -- anything to worry about for Dye Migration
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 09:46:28 PM »
We printed one today and has mild dye migration. ...

Rob...   we are testing the war paint tomorrow... ;)  I'll let ya know how it goes