we were using matsui's , even when we switched to CCI base and white still used matsui activator, it worked fine, but when I ran out of the 5 gallon pale we had I ordered cci's and with the CCI base and white, it actually shows a big difference in the brightness of the prints, not to mention it doesn't stink nearly as bad. We were sold some Wilflex activator that was for the Oasis discharge inks, it didn't work with the CCI discharge inks as well. I did try that Wiflex activator with the Magna from Nazdar and it was a perfect match. I learned, at least from what we are using, use the components formulated for each other for the "best" results. The mixing works, but I think consistency is achieved with properly forumlated, "for each other", products, if that makes sense