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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2012, 11:05:11 AM »
Saati has the haze remover that is pink and smells good but it is not the same thing as the hand cleaner and shouldn't be used for both.  I think some of us are confusing the 2 products as them being the same thing, but they are quite different when it comes down to it.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2012, 11:07:57 AM »
While we are on it... is that Saati stuff any good?  I'm not all that impressed with it but I don't have any experience with anything else, so it could very well be the best and I'm just expecting too much (though I doubt that is the case).
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2012, 06:21:22 PM »
no, that pink stuff makes GREAT hand wash.  it's actually not caustic as it's meant to be a degreaser and no a dehazer.


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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2012, 08:25:59 PM »
no, that pink stuff makes GREAT hand wash.  it's actually not caustic as it's meant to be a degreaser and no a dehazer.


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I use the pink stuff all the time and it is a haze remover. MK162 you are thinking of their hand cleaner. We use that also and its the best hand cleaner out there. I would not use the pink stuff on my skin. Even the CCI rep recommends gloves when using it.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2012, 08:44:58 PM »

Some day. 
 

Some day..

I used to think like that, it never got me anything.

How's it working for you.. or should I ask how did it work for you because had that someday.. been when you first bought screens, would you be here complaining about your static frames breaking. No you wouldn't.. now stop being silly and go buy some real frames.


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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2012, 10:55:50 PM »

Some day. 
 

Some day..

I used to think like that, it never got me anything.

How's it working for you.. or should I ask how did it work for you because had that someday.. been when you first bought screens, would you be here complaining about your static frames breaking. No you wouldn't.. now stop being silly and go buy some real frames.

You are living up to your forum signature...

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2012, 12:07:52 AM »

Some day. 
 

Some day..

I used to think like that, it never got me anything.

How's it working for you.. or should I ask how did it work for you because had that someday.. been when you first bought screens, would you be here complaining about your static frames breaking. No you wouldn't.. now stop being silly and go buy some real frames.

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2012, 02:23:55 PM »

I wasn't really complaining btw just trying to figure out what was causing it.

That would be the reduction of the VOC's and good chemical compounds that are being reformulated to meet the "new and improved" EPA rules and regulations. Combine that with piss poor labor and the guy re-meshing screens cares more about what he's doing after work than making good screens for you, heck he's probably thinking he's doing his boss a favor by making these lower quality screens so that you'll send them back for re-mesh sooner.

 

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2012, 02:07:19 PM »
I just wanted to follow up on this and post that i had a total of 8 screens let go (1 per reclaim/weekly)...i quit using the pink stuff just as you guys suggested--its been 3 weeks now (3 reclaims) and i have not had one screen break...so to me that says this stuff was the problem. 

I emailed the manufacturer an and I guess we'll see where they stand on it.

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2012, 03:27:06 PM »
I just wanted to follow up on this and post that i had a total of 8 screens let go (1 per reclaim/weekly)...i quit using the pink stuff just as you guys suggested--its been 3 weeks now (3 reclaims) and i have not had one screen break...so to me that says this stuff was the problem. 

I emailed the manufacturer an and I guess we'll see where they stand on it.

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If I remember correctly it says on the label to not let it get on or near the adhesive.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2012, 03:47:42 PM »
Shelly...where are these frames from? And are they breaking or simply un-gluing from the screen?I use the 858 on and off, and have never had this problem. BUT i can say I have noticed an un-gluing problem with a particular screenmaker that I just started buying from.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2012, 04:50:23 PM »
I've always gotten my screens from pocono screen.  They're coming unglued. 

I just checked the label and it doesn't say anything about getting it near the adhesive/on glue areas.  Says scrub it on both sides and rinse thoroughly to sum it up...

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2012, 07:59:28 PM »
Ask Pocono if they know of any issues with there glue and certain cleaning products.

A few years back, CCI (not ICC) listed almost a dozen different cleaners and degradents with at least two or three carrying a warning to not use on glued frames.
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