IC Cool White

[Ross_S]

Anyone tied this yet?  I've been using the Legacy white for a year now because it's just more versatile on 50/50 and more consistent in my opinion.  This new stuff has a curing range of 275 to 325 and is recommended for cotton, 50/50, polypropylene, etc.  Also says it has a low tack and fast flash (Legacy not so much).

Any feedback before I give it a go would be great.

Ross

[RICK STEFANICK]

thanks for the heads up. We currently use quick for 100% cotton and Legacy also for Blends. I just hate the hand with Legacy. I will order some and give it a whirl also.

[DonR]

My ink salesman gave us a gallon to test when we ordered a Rio max kit. We were using Epic Bright Tiger and he wanted us to try the Cool White to go along with the lower cure of the Rio. We have only run two jobs with it so far and both ran well. The white is nice and bright and it did not stick to the color screens as much as the Epic Bright Tiger does.

[Ross_S]

I agree Rick not a fan of the hand or tack but the opacity versus Quick is 10 times better for blends.

[BrazosDesigns]

IC Cool White underbase with Rio on top every print since June.  Works great, use it through a 150s or 180s, no adhesion issues, and it has a good curing latitude.  I'm going to be selling off my other whites (except for top score and poly white) and use this for 100% cotton and 50/50 and tri-blends.  And this should made printing those dang bags much easier.

[Ross_S]

That's what I was hoping to hear Brazos

[Logowear]

Brazos, I'd sell off the top score and poly white while your at it.
I haven't used mine since we switched to One Stroke ELT-S.

[Shanarchy]

Tried a gallon recently. Wasn't bad. We have been using Wilflex Perfect White. I think the Perfect white has better opacity, but the Cool White printed easier through higher mesh. I just ordered in a five of the Cool White. Based upon the lower cure temp range and having a dryer that's a little smaller than I really should have I am going to try to make this the new shop white.

[TheInkJedi]

We just got a gallon of this in. Has anyone tried it on an autopress? An ink can work beautifully on a manual doing one at a time, but not hold up when run through at high speed for extended runs. Was just curious if anyone had feedback on that front. 

[mimosatexas]

Big fan of the ELT-S for the low cure, and it prints cleanly through whatever mesh you want (high, low, T, S, etc) BUT it has major issues with opacity on long runs as the properties of the ink change due to heat.  mat down goes to crap etc.  You can mitigate it with adjustments on press, which is what we do, but it isnt as set and forget as other whites...

With our dryer setup, we would not be able to cure anything close to 60 dozen without ELT-S though.  We have been testing quick white and a few others and can barely cure at half that speed consistently.  Out dryer is garbage though, so it isnt really the inks fault...

[kirkwad]

Big fan of the ELT-S for the low cure, and it prints cleanly through whatever mesh you want (high, low, T, S, etc) BUT it has major issues with opacity on long runs as the properties of the ink change due to heat.  mat down goes to crap etc.  You can mitigate it with adjustments on press, which is what we do, but it isnt as set and forget as other whites...

With our dryer setup, we would not be able to cure anything close to 60 dozen without ELT-S though.  We have been testing quick white and a few others and can barely cure at half that speed consistently.  Out dryer is garbage though, so it isnt really the inks fault...

Maxie, we had fiber matte down problems with ELT-S as well because we do a ton of orders with dri-fit, blends & cotton on 1 order. We switched to the ELT-X which has given us a lot better fiber matte down & opacity.

We're going to be testing out the ICC Flex Cure Whites & Black once things calm down & we have some time to dedicate to thorough R&D. I've heard some good things though.

[mimosatexas]

interesting.  i'll toss a gallon of the X on when we re-up next...

we print like 75% triblends and have for the past year (mainly due to a few large volume clients) and the low temp has been huge for us, but matdown is always a challenge.  roller squeegee has been huge for us too.

[Shanarchy]

We just got a gallon of this in. Has anyone tried it on an autopress? An ink can work beautifully on a manual doing one at a time, but not hold up when run through at high speed for extended runs. Was just curious if anyone had feedback on that front.

We use it on an auto. So far I'm happy with it. A hair less opaque than Wilflex perfect white.