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Offline jvanick

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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2015, 08:16:23 AM »
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TWENTY  FOUR.  TWENTY  FOUR?!?!?   Letting that soak in.......

YIKES!!!

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Matsui recommendation for glitter is 24 to 80... we go from 24 to 110S in our shop, so 24 it is... plus it's what we've used for Plastisol Glitter and HD prints since we started.


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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2015, 08:34:49 AM »
Ahhh.... Got it!

I keep 60's and a few 80-something-er-others around, so that's good to know. I can barely expose 60's with my weak light source.

Can you tint the glitter base just like the Metallic Binder 301 (which was the original topic)? I showed The Queen your picture and she wet herself just a little bit and instantly came up with a design and ordered shirts.  :o   (We have a retail room.) But she wants gold. So maybe I just need to order gold glitter?

And Tony, I didn't understand your last post. Probably early stages of Alzheimers. Was the Union Premix a waterbased product, with glitter already mixed in? That's my guess. If so, can it be tinted also?

Thanks guys.
Stan the thread hijacker.  ;)

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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2015, 08:44:17 AM »
Union is RFU finished product and can be tinted

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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2015, 09:04:19 AM »
with the Matsui Glitter Base we're using, you don't have to tint the base, you add whatever color particles you want...  the base actually 'goes away' in the dryer, and you're just left with the glitter.  (The tech data sheet does say you can pigment the base, might need to try that in the 'r&d lab' ;) )

it looks TOTALLY different from plastisol glitter, there's not that gel type feel to it after curing.

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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2015, 09:12:57 AM »
All true. Reminds me of the "rainbow glitters we made by mixing different color flakes from Meadowbrook. High minimums back then 10lb bag I believe

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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2015, 09:21:18 AM »


Can you tint the glitter base just like the Metallic Binder 301 (which was the original topic)? I showed The Queen your picture and she wet herself just a little bit and instantly came up with a design and ordered shirts.  :o   (We have a retail room.) But she wants gold. So maybe I just need to order gold glitter?


In our shop here we lay down a water base ink color to match whatever glitter particle we are using just in case to hide some of the imperfections of glitter coverage. And we use a 30 mesh screen when printing the waterbase glitter
Timm Towers
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Re: Matsui Metallic Binder and CCI Pigments
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2015, 09:49:52 AM »
8 years in, HOW did I not already know about this!?!

(Self-taught, I reckon. It's the most expensive education.)

When we want glitter, we cut heat press vinyl. That probably is still a viable option for small runs, but I'm going after both of these products.

The College Of TSB is "attendance optional" school, but it sure helps if you do your "assigned reading".

And welcome to ttwo0603!

Stan