Info on the best way to separate and print this job

[Phatgi]

I am just new to printing any kind of process job in house. I also have never done seperations in photoshop on any kind of process job. I have a 6 color 8 head Olympian Automatic. I am trying to figure out the best way to produce this job. I know to create an underbase white but I am unsure if I should just create spot colors or try and do this with full process colors. This will be going on black 100% cotton t's. I am using accurip and printing my film on Epson 1400. If I need to add any more info I will do my best, just let me know. Any info is greatly appreciated!

[aauusa]

to be honest I would send it out to a professional separator.   This would not be a good job to learn on,  plus with the pro seps you could then work backwards to see how they did it.

[3Deep]

IMO that job scream's cmyk seps you could go sim process with the correct seps, trying to go spot color I don't think you have enough heads or flashes to do it with plus it would be more of a pain that way. There are some great art guys here that could sep that for you and give you some print pointers in the process.

darryl

[Orion]

We would use 6 colors on this: white under, red, 285 blue, fuchsia, gold and white over.

[starchild]

Your best value for this job and doing halftone work going foward, is to have a pro separator do the seps and you just focus on the on-press variables.. In your down time you can spend some time evaluating the professionaly done seps and learn from it.. It would cost you more money in frustrations and wasted time doing a half ass'd Sep and disappointing your customer because it did not print decently. For now approach all your halftone seps as a learning experience, then roll it out as a new product offering only after you are competent with it..

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[JBLUE]

There is some green in there too that I would add so at least 7 to make it look really good. With 6 heads use a discharge base so you can eliminate the need to flash. You will get good blending as all of the colors well get stepped on.

[tonypep]

Not a good candidate for a six color press at all

[Phatgi]

This definitely does not have to have all the colors in the design. They are just asking for a galaxy style print. More of the purple and blues with the white showing in places. The customer is a good friend and they are open to anything they are also on a pretty tight budget as most clients. I am planning on having Dan do the seps. I was just looking to maybe learn some on my own and play with some techniques. I mainly do spot color jobs, in our area there isn't a lot of call for process jobs. I am wanting to develop my skills in separations and printing. I have been working in photoshop designing for quite a while, I just have never tried doing a lot of separations in Photoshop. Thanks guys for all the input and when I get the job completed I will try and post some pics. I am willing to try and learn anything!

[blue moon]

your biggest issue is going to be the screens. How small of a dot can you hold? If the best you can do is 15%, the print is going to have hard banding lines all over it.

Print a 0-100% gradient at 35, 45 and 55lpi and see what opens. To make it look decent, you'll need whatever lpi holds halftones below 10%. You should be shooting for 5%, but that can be tough.

pierre

[Phatgi]

Pierre, Thanks. I just printed some Gradient films and will test them this afternoon to see what I can hold. Thanks for the info!

[3Deep]

Another tip is to use a color mesh for very fine halftone work, something about how the light reflects off it, and yeah Dan's a pretty good seper for a young fells LOL

darryl

[Phatgi]

I will definitely be using yellow mesh. Thanks!

[blue moon]

Pierre, Thanks. I just printed some Gradient films and will test them this afternoon to see what I can hold. Thanks for the info!

try this:

http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,8018.0.html

pierre