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Offline Inprint

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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2015, 07:58:21 PM »
We had 40 new frames delivered the same day the machine arrived.
We measured right about 30n before throwing them on the press.
I know that statics are not the holy grail, but they WERE just about as good a tension as possible for statics is all I was saying.
Believe me we're excited to slowly transfer to rollers, about to pick up a few used ones to start rolling into production.


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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2015, 08:10:44 PM »
We print 60% static 160s and 40% rollers with 160S and 225S.

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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2015, 08:36:22 PM »
That's the direction Id like to move in too.
We're in Montreal though, not many used newmans available here.
Or qualified auto techs apparently, we've been asking around, could really use a day of checkup and training

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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2015, 10:47:19 PM »
Inprint, if your having trouble with the squeegee hydroplaning you might have some weak print cylinders you did say this press is a 2004 all air. I could be very wrong on this just trying to toss my 2 cents in, I know M&R is a pretty good company but it's still a machine and parts do ware over time.
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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 07:03:58 AM »
Thanks for all the replies!
This forum is awesome

3D deep, the seller threw in some new cylinders he had in the shop, so I installed them in print head one and 4 when I setup the machine, those seemed like the oldest, most beat up ones.

I'm going in this AM, will set all choppers to wide open and recheck everything before printing anything today, still trying to find a local tech that can train us, I didn't expect to get amazing prints right away, but certainly want to make progress asap.

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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 07:22:32 AM »
That's the direction Id like to move in too.
We're in Montreal though, not many used newmans available here.
Or qualified auto techs apparently, we've been asking around, could really use a day of checkup and training
we have a full time tech in Toronto.
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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 06:06:39 PM »
First off thanks for all the advice yesterday!

We came in this AM, opened all choppers to max, lowered pressure to 30psi.

We burned our designs about 2" Lower on screen, slowed down our squeegee and increase angle, and we got MUCH better results.

We still had to double stroke to completely clear the screen, but kept pressure at 35psi or so, much lower than the close to 50psi we needed before. The top of our image was clearing just fine.

We haven't reduced our white at all, but after a couple of strokes the ink flowed fine.

We'd love to clear on one stroke, but Im starting to get the impression that might be tricky until we have some rollers with higher tension.

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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 07:11:37 PM »
What mesh counts are you having to double stroke with and what colors? 
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Re: All air sportsman- chopper settings
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 07:16:27 PM »
So far we've only used 156 and 225's
Mostly white on blacks and some colors on white tees
We coat 1+2