New Press

[mx798]

Frog, He was doing it right but his business partner no longer liked it and wanted to get out, so he did too.

[Prosperi-Tees]

why not presperi

Basically very overpriced on most everything

[Frog]

why not presperi

Basically very overpriced on most everything

Though they carry a full line, they target young Newbies, many of whom then stick with them rather than exploring and discovering the many other options out there.

[GraphicDisorder]

Ryonet is a example of a successful online business, they also offer a fair amount of videos/how to's/decent customer service/good web site.  Other suppliers better take note.....

[mx798]

So, i should or shouldn't go with them? Thats where i have found the best package so far

[Prosperi-Tees]

They do have the best beginner packages and support, that being said dont go into buying the $1K package thinking it is all its cracked up to be. Ryonet does a great job of pumping the beginners up and giving unrealistic production numbers with those kits.

[ebscreen]

While Ryonet is quite obviously a successful company, they also cater almost exclusively to a newbie crowd that for
all intents and purposes, will remain hobbyists. Do you intend to remain a hobbyist? Do you want the
Radio Shack Junior King model or the real thing?

They have a workable web site and customer service, but their offerings and marketing directed solely at newbies
tend to make anyone seriously in  this business look elsewhere.

Be wary of any "package deal" you may find. It likely will both not include things you need  as well as include
things you don't.

Best advice if you are serious about this is to find a used Hopkins or Workhorse and go from there.

[Denis Kolar]

Get used set-up and use one of these suppliers.

http://techsupportsps.com/
http://superiorsps.com/acatalog/copy_of_SBQ_Emulsions-1.html
http://www.sourceoneonline.com/index.asp?printerType=4
http://www.atlasscreensupply.com/
http://onesourcemichigan.com/
http://www.spresource.com/

You will find almost everything at the better pricing. But Ryonet is good when they give specials and their support and video library is good.

[Prosperi-Tees]

Take the Ryonet class first if one is in your area or like has been said get a job at a shop. This way you get to know what really goes into it. I took a class after I bought the kit and when I entered the shop I knew right away that I wasted my money with where I wanted to go with the business.

[Gilligan]

Do you think Ryan Moore prints on a "silver" press?

Check out all of their INSTRUCTIONAL videos... ever see him using the Silver press for anything other than demo'ing the silver press?

I think that kind of tells you a bit about that package and press right there, he doesn't use any of that gear in his instructional videos.

[Frog]

I'm presently dealing, at another site,  with a purchaser of a package like this who can not figure out why his exposures are not working as they should.
btw, a halogen light has virtually none of the correct wave length of light needed by our emulsions.

[mimosatexas]

I used a 6/2 silver press with micros for years without issue.  You have to learn the quirks of the press, but it is very much usable and I made plenty of money on it.  It was also the only 6 color press I could find at the time with micros for under $1500 and I needed it to land a client that has paid for the press about 30x over since I bought it.  That said, I like my kruzer infinitely more and it requires no finesse to get a perfect print out of it.  You setup and print.

I would go with a used m&r/vastex/antec/workhorse, 6 colors with tool free micros, then add peripherals around that.  You can build a lot of your stuff if you're handy and want to save money.  I still build almost everything I need.

[mk162]

this is the reason I almost always look at good used.  I learned the hard way.  I bought my MD-8 for around $22k and the EXACT same unit popped up less than 6 months later for $10 about 45 minutes north of here.

[JackThrasher]

Pilfer Craigslist day in and day out... you might be able to get decent equipment (better than the Ryonet starter) but you'll probably need at least $1500-$2000 more but you'll thank yourself later... I've been piecing a shop together and I'm already 2K in but I have a 6/6 Ranar, a decent flash, inks, squeegees, chemicals, blanks, etc. You can also order preburned screens from Anthem Screen Supply and save for a good exposure unit.

The trick is to find out how to trick the system. But the best advice I've heard is GET a job at a print shop so you can gain the experience from people who do it every day. Plus read this board everyday and ask questions.