Need info on used 12-14 color M&Rs

[Admiral]

We are trying to get a used 12 color in the shop by the end of this month. 

Possible presses I have found are:
12 color Sportsman E (20x20 print) year 2003 3mil imprints
-This one I'm worried about features / speedy setups, no head supports so it's probably not as smooth as the newer presses?
-Probably passing on this one

12 color Premier (16x22 print) approx year 2005 59K
-I was told this was basically a Guantlet 2
-Pretty interested in this one just don't know much about it

There were a couple 14 colors we might be interested too...
Challenger 2

Anyway the point of this, is anyone available to talk to about these presses / other possible presses this afternoon? I want to get more info on these used presses. Essentially we want 12 colors(might entertain 10, 14 more so than 10, but 12 would be ideal), we want speedy setups, a press we can get this month...Currently we just have a 7 color Diamondback.  Looking for something as new as possible (very reliable, fast) with all of the great features...servo index, A/C heads, reset and test print at every head if not more buttons...etc.  Budget is a bit flexible too, definitely not going over 75K though.

Thanks

[Socalfmf]

get the serial number for the M&R and they will be able to tell you all about it!

sam

[244]

We are trying to get a used 12 color in the shop by the end of this month. 

Possible presses I have found are:
12 color Sportsman E (20x20 print) year 2003 3mil imprints
-This one I'm worried about features / speedy setups, no head supports so it's probably not as smooth as the newer presses?
-Probably passing on this one

12 color Premier (16x22 print) approx year 2005 59K
-I was told this was basically a Guantlet 2
-Pretty interested in this one just don't know much about it

There were a couple 14 colors we might be interested too...
Challenger 2

Anyway the point of this, is anyone available to talk to about these presses / other possible presses this afternoon? I want to get more info on these used presses. Essentially we want 12 colors(might entertain 10, 14 more so than 10, but 12 would be ideal), we want speedy setups, a press we can get this month...Currently we just have a 7 color Diamondback.  Looking for something as new as possible (very reliable, fast) with all of the great features...servo index, A/C heads, reset and test print at every head if not more buttons...etc.  Budget is a bit flexible too, definitely not going over 75K though.

Thanks

I would not discount the Sportsman so quickly. with or without head supports is not an issue and if you want to add the supports its no big deal. 3,000,000 impressions on the press if taken care of properly is just broke in. The Premier is mechanically like a Gauntlet 2 but not electrically. Not a lot of electronic parts readily available as it was discontinued some time ago. you are welcome to call and discuss any of our presses with me anytime.

[Admiral]

We are trying to get a used 12 color in the shop by the end of this month. 

Possible presses I have found are:
12 color Sportsman E (20x20 print) year 2003 3mil imprints
-This one I'm worried about features / speedy setups, no head supports so it's probably not as smooth as the newer presses?
-Probably passing on this one

12 color Premier (16x22 print) approx year 2005 59K
-I was told this was basically a Guantlet 2
-Pretty interested in this one just don't know much about it

There were a couple 14 colors we might be interested too...
Challenger 2

Anyway the point of this, is anyone available to talk to about these presses / other possible presses this afternoon? I want to get more info on these used presses. Essentially we want 12 colors(might entertain 10, 14 more so than 10, but 12 would be ideal), we want speedy setups, a press we can get this month...Currently we just have a 7 color Diamondback.  Looking for something as new as possible (very reliable, fast) with all of the great features...servo index, A/C heads, reset and test print at every head if not more buttons...etc.  Budget is a bit flexible too, definitely not going over 75K though.

Thanks

I would not discount the Sportsman so quickly. with or without head supports is not an issue and if you want to add the supports its no big deal. 3,000,000 impressions on the press if taken care of properly is just broke in. The Premier is mechanically like a Gauntlet 2 but not electrically. Not a lot of electronic parts readily available as it was discontinued some time ago. you are welcome to call and discuss any of our presses with me anytime.

Thanks Rich.

Won't pursue the Premier, we are thinking of one of the Challenger 2s.  Once I get the serial numbers I will give you a call.  It's a lot more press then we need but better to have more than we need than less. 

[Lizard]

We have a 2007 sportsman E 12/14 we bought new and it has 1.2 mil on it. Sets up as quick as any M&R press out there. It will run up to 70 dozen so plenty fast enough. About the only thing we ever had to replace is electric buttons and head lift locks. We setup probably 10 jobs a day on it. Great press for the money.  Call if you have questions.