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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: IntegrityShirts on August 28, 2013, 01:53:12 PM

Title: ZFS agents matched with brand or mix?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on August 28, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
I have CCI, Union, Matsui, Fuji zfs powders.  Is there a difference? They all look the same and have the same consistency.  All taste the same too, just kidding.  Are there any differences?
Title: Re: ZFS agents matched with brand or mix?
Post by: ebscreen on August 28, 2013, 02:49:51 PM
It's like acetaminophen. Buy the cheapest.
Title: Re: ZFS agents matched with brand or mix?
Post by: screenprintguy on August 28, 2013, 06:32:41 PM
we were using matsui's , even when we switched to CCI base and white still used matsui activator, it worked fine, but when I ran out of the 5 gallon pale we had I ordered cci's and with the CCI base and white, it actually shows a big difference in the brightness of the prints, not to mention it doesn't stink nearly as bad. We were sold some Wilflex activator that was for the Oasis discharge inks, it didn't work with the CCI discharge inks as well. I did try that Wiflex activator with the Magna from Nazdar and it was a perfect match. I learned, at least from what we are using, use the components formulated for each other for the "best" results. The mixing works, but I think consistency is achieved with properly forumlated, "for each other",  products, if that makes sense  ;)
Title: Re: ZFS agents matched with brand or mix?
Post by: Colin on August 28, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
The ZFS that CCI sells is a finer grind than others on the market.  As a result it dissolves easier.  Making for a better discharge.

ZFS is still ZFS.  There is no chemical change between the manufacturers.  Just particle size.
Title: Re: ZFS agents matched with brand or mix?
Post by: brandon on August 29, 2013, 12:09:10 AM
Coffee grinder. No joke!