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Embroidery => General Embroidery => Topic started by: ebscreen on May 02, 2013, 03:39:34 PM
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Anybody have any experience with Barudan as a company? As in service etc? Considering a machine.
Thanks in advance, good or bad...
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Service is excellent. When you call usually you have to leave a message but they call back quickly. Their online techs will spend as long as necassary on the phone with you as needed never an issue. Parts can be pricey but easy to order never a back order on anything. And being Barudan qualified techs are every where.
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Awesome, thanks.
SWF has been silly to deal with. They do try their hardest but they just aren't very tech savvy.
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Is there any such thing as embroidery training? I as well have been toying with the idea of embroidery as all the local embroiders we have dealt with their quality is just blah... Makes me think it is hard to do.
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!!!!!IT IS NOTHING LIKE SCREEN PRINTING!!!!!
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Embroidery seems very technical/tedious to me. Screen printing (for me and my market) is easy peezy.
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I'm not the one running the machine but I've dabbled and problem solved a few things.
For me the main difference is that anything going wrong is either in a digital file or in a machine. IE
it's not your arms not pushing hard enough or anything you can physically see.
Once you get it going though I'd say it's a hell of a lot easier to hoop stuff and press the start button
than it is to load shirts and mix ink.
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We just purchased a 4 head tajima. We are not taking in orders but simply learning right now. We have a class tomorrow in Baton Rouge and hopefully that's gonna help us alot....
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We just purchased a 4 head tajima. We are not taking in orders but simply learning right now. We have a class tomorrow in Baton Rouge and hopefully that's gonna help us alot....
If you have training with Hirsch, make sure you keep the instructor in check. If that will be a lady that I had training with and if there will be few more ladies that are taking the training, please keep them on the subject because they will wander away about not important stuff. Like which thread color goes good with their eyes ans sh!t like that.
Ask as many questions as you can, and ask a lot about underlay and which one to use where. Alo, try to lear as much as you can about backing and underlay combinations with different materials (Pique, satin, performance, ......)
Good luck
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I've had a Barudan single head for 9 years and it has been great as well as the tech support from Barudan. No complaints at all. I did training for a couple days at there facility and that got me up and running and making quality stuff in no time. Would by again without hesitation.
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I have bought 2 brand new Barudans this year already and I love them. I had SWF before that and it was a good machine until the Barudan was next to it and you could compare the two. I looked hard at Tajima but chose the Barudan because of the service and the lettering is better.
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We have been runnin them for over 20yrs now. From a 1 head to a 14 head. We have also ran Tajima and tested some knock off Chineese start up years ago. Very nice machines.
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yeah, most of the work in embroidery is done through digitizing...if that is right, your stuff is great...for the most part.
screen printing has so many more variables i think
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We picked Barudan over Tajiman because we mainly do lettering.
I bought this book years ago from amazon.com . I find it useful if you are starting out.
Digitizing Made Easy: Create Custom Embroidery Designs Like a Pro
Author John Deer
Good Luck
Anthony
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We've got all Tajima but I'd seriuously look at Barudan because of the great things I've heard about them. I had an embroidery consultant tell me that Barudan made the best machines overall and although we've never had one, I wouldn't doubt it if they were the best.
As far as running one, my screen tech learned how to operate an embroidery machine in the better part of a day but he's been working in the screen printing building for about a year and couldn't run the auto at all with way more time spent around it than an embroidery machine. I'm not saying running an embroidery machine is a piece of cake but if this guy can run one then I have no doubts that just about anyone can. I wouldn't trust him running the auto and I've spent a lot of time with him around the auto.
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We have two Barudan 4-heads and one single head. Been running all three for over 5 years now and not one time have we had a down day. We have contacted tech support 1 time for the to help us set the timing on the Single Head. Great machines and we have a great rep so no complaints from us.
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Running the machine is one thing, making sure you use right underlays when digitizing, making sure that you use right backing when hooping is where the problems are.
If you have good digitized file and you use wrong backing, you are in trouble. If you hoop too tight or too loose on some designs, you are in trouble.
If you do not maintain your machine correctly, you are in trouble. If you use cheap thread and bobins, you are in trouble. If you do not know how to hoop a hat, you are in trouble.
Book by John Deer is decent, I was expecting more explanations and in depth stuff when I bought it.
Mu suggestion would be, play with the machine as much as you can. Try to digitize yourself. Not for production, just to learn what works and what not.
What when machine is sewing a design, you can learn a lot with just watching.
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We've got all Tajima but I'd seriuously look at Barudan because of the great things I've heard about them. I had an embroidery consultant tell me that Barudan made the best machines overall and although we've never had one, I wouldn't doubt it if they were the best.
As far as running one, my screen tech learned how to operate an embroidery machine in the better part of a day but he's been working in the screen printing building for about a year and couldn't run the auto at all with way more time spent around it than an embroidery machine. I'm not saying running an embroidery machine is a piece of cake but if this guy can run one then I have no doubts that just about anyone can. I wouldn't trust him running the auto and I've spent a lot of time with him around the auto.
Emb machines are digital and fairly straight forward on how it operates. Screen printing requires more trouble shooting and lots of knowledge concerning tons of variables. Anyone can learn the operation of an embroidery machine but its the digitizing side, backing choices, and thread tensions that can make or break a decent operator. I know an operator for a big contract shop all he knows how to do is load the design from his queue and hoop the shirts following the instruction sheet. He cannot do anything above and beyond that, he cannot trouble shoot why something is running poorly, nor can he perform simple tasks like adjust timing or change cutter blades.
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We've got all Tajima but I'd seriuously look at Barudan because of the great things I've heard about them. I had an embroidery consultant tell me that Barudan made the best machines overall and although we've never had one, I wouldn't doubt it if they were the best.
As far as running one, my screen tech learned how to operate an embroidery machine in the better part of a day but he's been working in the screen printing building for about a year and couldn't run the auto at all with way more time spent around it than an embroidery machine. I'm not saying running an embroidery machine is a piece of cake but if this guy can run one then I have no doubts that just about anyone can. I wouldn't trust him running the auto and I've spent a lot of time with him around the auto.
Emb machines are digital and fairly straight forward on how it operates. Screen printing requires more trouble shooting and lots of knowledge concerning tons of variables. Anyone can learn the operation of an embroidery machine but its the digitizing side, backing choices, and thread tensions that can make or break a decent operator. I know an operator for a big contract shop all he knows how to do is load the design from his queue and hoop the shirts following the instruction sheet. He cannot do anything above and beyond that, he cannot trouble shoot why something is running poorly, nor can he perform simple tasks like adjust timing or change cutter blades.
You would call that a t-shirt loader or a t-shirt puller on the screen printing side.
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Is there any such thing as embroidery training? I as well have been toying with the idea of embroidery as all the local embroiders we have dealt with their quality is just blah... Makes me think it is hard to do.
You should just send it to Jason! embroidery is a whole different beast and is a full time job in itself. Just ask Jason.... :o
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Is there any such thing as embroidery training? I as well have been toying with the idea of embroidery as all the local embroiders we have dealt with their quality is just blah... Makes me think it is hard to do.
You should just send it to Jason! embroidery is a whole different beast and is a full time job in itself. Just ask Jason.... :o
I have been trying but usually I don't get the jobs because my price is to high after my markup. Its the story of my life right now it seems.
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You don't want to work for free either. If they think you are too high, you don't want the job. Some people are all about the bottom dollar.I haven't heard the word quality for about the last 4 years, it's all about price and nothing else.
Custom doesn't mean sh$t any more.
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I hear ya on that one!
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IMO running the embriodery machines is easy. It's the digitizing and such that will haunt you. We learn all of the time on that front.
Barudans I've always heard great things about. I have always be me told by al of our techs barudan and Tajima are the best machines.
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Probably gonna pull the trigger on Barudan myself. Used Tajima for 13 years, and I was told last week by my tech that Tajima is now made in China and quality will go down.
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China is getting better, I am not saying that Tajima's won't have problems, but China isn't what it used to be.
I doubt Tajima would have moved to China if it would effect their quality.
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Welp, pulled the trigger. 12 head should be here the first week of June.
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Welp, pulled the trigger. 12 head should be here the first week of June.
Wow! Have you moved shops since I been there? Where the heck you gonna put that thing?
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Funny you should ask! We started moving Friday, should finish up today or tomorrow. New space is almost
double, with a huge upstairs, just for embroidery. And my dog.
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Sweet!
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China is getting better, I am not saying that Tajima's won't have problems, but China isn't what it used to be.
I doubt Tajima would have moved to China if it would effect their quality.
When more than one Tajima tech says buy a Barudan I listened and have no regrets so far. Especially when they work directly for Tajima.
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China is getting better, I am not saying that Tajima's won't have problems, but China isn't what it used to be.
I doubt Tajima would have moved to China if it would effect their quality.
When more than one Tajima tech says buy a Barudan I listened and have no regrets so far. Especially when they work directly for Tajima.
agreed!