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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Gilligan on January 30, 2013, 01:08:29 AM
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Anyone ever used this guy or know where to get it?
I emailed Sefar but haven't hear back. All too often the case with some of these screen printing manufactures. Maybe one day I'll be big enough to not have to return phone calls and emails. *shrug*
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M&R makes one BTW. Also Enzo on DS comes across a used one now and then.
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M&R makes one BTW. Also Enzo on DS comes across a used one now and then.
The "Max Newton"?
we have one in a box:
MODEL # MNS36X48
SERIAL # 099628847M
MACHINE # 0065
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Thats it Duane. Is it new? For Sale?
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No, not that kind. This kind.
RollerpanelFRAME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Krmfym-jnQ#)
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I like it.
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Gilly, that's the green screen for Panel frame rollers, I have one here....it's about 400.00 @ nazdar
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That might be who I contacted. Who knows.
Homer, does that work for bolt mesh and locking strips? I've been wanting to ask someone if they would ever contact me about it.
I would think it would... it just grabs onto the edge of the channel and I would think there would be enough... but maybe not being that the mesh is also coming around that edge as well.
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It only work with bolt mesh OR the green screen (now called Trax frames or some damn thing) roller/panel system. you can not use it with M3's and surloc panels. The "eagle claw" looking thing that grabs the edge of the frame is too big to fit inside the edge of the frame with the locking strip on surlocs... I found out the hard/expensive way....I have a dozen or so of the green screen rollers and they BLOW...I ordered one frame about a year ago and It was basically an M3, same diameter rollers, really not a bad frame. So I ordered a dozen or so, but NOW they are smaller than an MZX and they warp like a mo fo at any tension...so they are sitting on a shelf.....almost useless....they warp terribly...
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Cool, good to know.
Thanks!
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Thats it Duane. Is it new? For Sale?
its been here as long as i have - i think the serial number shows that it was made in 1996
its for sale
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Anyone ever used this guy or know where to get it?
I emailed Sefar but haven't hear back. All too often the case with some of these screen printing manufactures. Maybe one day I'll be big enough to not have to return phone calls and emails. *shrug*
Gilligan: This item is avalibale from Nazdar SourceOne. Item Number is STFGAR31 - Description is Sefar GreenScreen Roller Frame Stretching Tool - Cost EACH $402.90
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Gilligan, I have a stretcher, you can have it if you want it.
Chris
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I have one that I do not use (no roller frames) If anyone is interested let me know.
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We have the one from Sefar and it will work with M3's. It's handy versus trying to do it manually with the wrench. It works on the Sefar roller panels also and we use it for bolt mesh. When using M3s you have to take 2 of the spacers off.
I was told it would not work with ShurLoc panels because the locking strips are curved and the tool that grabs the roller won't fit in the channel. I haven't tried si I don't know for sure. We have been using Sefar panels with Emesh and bolt mesh.
We use ours almost daily and no complaints so far. Price seems a little steep for what it is but then what isn't.
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This is one item I think is priced fairly ok for what it is.
I couldn't build one that would be worth my time for that price. $400 isn't too bad.
What is shurlock's table 2k and that really isn't anything much different than this? and a roller table 4k+?
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I posted this once before. About $75 and some time.
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Agree on the ShurLoc Table price...the Sefar table does the same thing for less than 1/3 the price. I think it is the next best thing next to the roller table. I also like it because it doesn't take up much space and it's easy to move around.
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P.S. My little DIY is hinged to the shelf coming out and pivots up against the wall when not in use. Necessity is the mother of invention :)
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P.S. My little DIY is hinged to the shelf coming out and pivots up against the wall when not in use. Necessity is the mother of invention :)
I was about to post how boss that was!
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I think our L2 roller table was $3200
I'm curious how stretching a screen like that in the video vs how I do it would compare tension wise after 2-3 cycles.
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I can't comment on comparison to a roller table as I have never used one. Our screens typically work harden after 2-3 re-tensions using the ACME.
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I posted this once before. About $75 and some time.
Where did you buy the hardware with the holes .
TX
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Had to fabricate that. I got the design layout from Northland, a member here and elsewhere.
It's basically one piece of flat bar steel, cut to sections and drilled out, along with one piece of angle steel, cut to sections and welded to the uprights.
If you'd like the diagram plans from Northland, just pm me and I'll send it.
If you have any access to simple welding and drill press, you're there.
Just use adjustable wrenches from like Harbor Freight and extra screwdrivers for the tension stoppers.
Update on the price. I forgot I got the woodworking clamp downs at Harbor Freight for about 9.95 each so that adds another $40 to it. You can do it without them, but it's really nice to fasten it down.
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Note, Northland's was my starting point. I made some changes to fit my needs. Example, the wooden riser along the back to set the square bar on and I added the clampdowns that he didn't have. To arrive at a reasonably flat surface, I laminated two cut layers of cabinet plywood which was pretty damn straight. I figured sandwiching them would keep them level and not need a steel table.
Below are the last of the Northland pics. If anyone want's more specs on my finished project, I'll see what I can do.
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IF I dabble back into rollers, I was thinking about making my table work with an electric winch under it, 4 cables, one to each roller bar, weld up my own clamps, maybe a pully or two...no air needed. This manual one works, it gets them tensioned just fine but it takes a little longer than I like, still not too bad though. We usually let the screens sit until we really need them because nobody likes to stretch them haha...I got mine for 125.00 so can't complain..
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Old School Tony here. I love my stretch and glue set up. Way more fun and I have a few secrets to getting the required tension. Sorry no sharing.
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Old School Tony here. I love my stretch and glue set up. Way more fun and I have a few secrets to getting the required tension. Sorry no sharing.
The guy that stretches for us personally has a few tricks as well. One of them is staging up to desired tension then he places a ton of weight on the screen comes back in an hour or so removes the weights and retensions to a bit more than desired and then glues. He says that the weights act like hardening the mesh, except doing it with a squeegee over a period of time he does it with the weights. I can tell you our screens from him are dynamite and stabilize in the mid 20's.
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Hey I said no sharing! :)
We also have a grinding system which removes the old glue.
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If someone had the time and will, they could produce some damn fine statics like Mike is getting. The problem is lack of knowledge from a lot of the people buying the screens. Back when I was buying statics, I didn't give a damn about tension because I didn't know anything about it. If customers don't demand a better product then suppliers will give them just enough to keep them coming back. If you can get statics, especially thin thread mesh to work harden in the mid 20's, you'd be doing some damn fine work and doing it fast.
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I posted this once before. About $75 and some time.
That's stellar. I'm no engineer - I see I could use a jig to get 80% of the advantage offered by a true roller table, but in my mind there's too many damn ways too do it. Seeing a decent, workable setup makes it so much easier. Thanks.