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Title: What is a Gutter?
Post by: tonypep on December 07, 2012, 06:02:00 PM
Having just a bit of fun here. I've been told that I coined the term but  who cares? This pertains to a few other threads however I think it may apply to most of us so I thought we could start it here.
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: brandon on December 07, 2012, 06:17:10 PM
Talking about plastisol seps and the "gutter" it sometimes creates?
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Screened Gear on December 07, 2012, 06:20:09 PM
Are you asking a question? A gutter in printing is a thin gap in the underbase to help touching colors not mix. I have used them on a few jobs but they can be a pain to set up on complex designs. Funny question for a waterbase guy to ask.
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Dottonedan on December 07, 2012, 06:26:08 PM
Originally formed in page layout term.


(http://0.tqn.com/d/desktoppub/1/G/Y/M/gl-gutteralley.gif)


When applied to apparel printing, it could mean the valley where (lets say) a black line art falls into the shirt and multi levels of ink are surrounding and built up creating a gutter space.




Thats my thoughts.


Also, it could be the space located for Sams old friends he no longer hangs out with in (the gutter space).  LOL.

Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: brandon on December 07, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
Hahaha. I have many, many "gutter" friends as well
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: starchild on December 07, 2012, 07:55:58 PM
A gutter helps create crisp sharp lines between butt registered colors as opposed to soft and blurred? But carving up an underbase is no fun..
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Frog on December 07, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
That's how I use it, The ink tends to "fall off" the base edge and get a little absorbed by the bare fabric, and then has much less tendency to blur, even when touching other wet ink.
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: tonypep on December 08, 2012, 02:30:41 AM
Are you asking a question? A gutter in printing is a thin gap in the underbase to help touching colors not mix. I have used them on a few jobs but they can be a pain to set up on complex designs. Funny question for a waterbase guy to ask.

Thats it. Back in the evil days of plastisol and less than desired tension we would generate the underbase with gutters ie not exactly 100% solid UB. It was a compensation bandaid which actually worked quite well and reduced multiple flashing. When I e-mailed the art dept about DC UBs they asked about gutters and I honestly had to take a minute to remember what it meant. Not necessary now for us but might be helpful to some.
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Chadwick on December 08, 2012, 03:13:08 AM
'What is a gutter?'

a) A necessary evil.
b) Something that creates a downflow, away from.
c) Where you wind up if you're not careful?
d) an area of compensation for a process based on previous knowledge of it's limits.

I use gutters all the time with my 'old-skool' plastisol daily routine.
I'll go with a, and d, regardless of the medium.

Cheers.
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: mooseman on December 08, 2012, 10:25:58 AM

 GUTTER : definition
An undifined arear where the thoughts of a male mind often wonders aimlessly. Teenager and senior minds seem to find greater attraction  exhibiting of higher frequency of visitations and longer durations of occupancy. ???
mooseman
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Dottonedan on December 08, 2012, 10:34:53 AM

 GUTTER : definition
An undifined arear where the thoughts of a male mind often wonders aimlessly. Teenager and senior minds seem to find greater attraction  exhibiting of higher frequency of visitations and longer durations of occupancy. ???
mooseman




Ha!  I'm glad you mentioned seniors'. That gives me something to look forward to.   ;D
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Sbrem on December 08, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Are you asking a question? A gutter in printing is a thin gap in the underbase to help touching colors not mix. I have used them on a few jobs but they can be a pain to set up on complex designs. Funny question for a waterbase guy to ask.

Thats it. Back in the evil days of plastisol and less than desired tension we would generate the underbase with gutters ie not exactly 100% solid UB. It was a compensation bandaid which actually worked quite well and reduced multiple flashing. When I e-mailed the art dept about DC UBs they asked about gutters and I honestly had to take a minute to remember what it meant. Not necessary now for us but might be helpful to some.

We lived without gutters until the digital age, too tedious to create, and we called them gutters too once we could make them; some kind of collective consciousness I guess. We made our own flash unit before they were commercially available, and apparently others were doing the same, because 6 months later, there they were in Screen Printing magazine. I think sometimes common sense is common, and not a rare as it appears to be.

Steve
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: tonypep on December 11, 2012, 08:16:42 AM
Interestingly enough Mike Beckman and I were unkowingly working on the first efforts of High Density concepts even though we were at opposite ends of the country. He for Nike and me for Hilfiger
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Doug B on December 11, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
Gutter; Term widely used on Craigslist usually refering to a 6 or 12 stringed musical instrument.  :o
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: 3Deep on December 11, 2012, 11:15:38 AM
Gutter: something I need to put around my roof to keep the rain from ditching around the flower beds. He He

Darryl
Title: Re: What is a Gutter?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on December 11, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
Gutter- What we played in as kids