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Artist => General Art Discussions => Topic started by: ebscreen on June 06, 2011, 02:38:12 PM

Title: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: ebscreen on June 06, 2011, 02:38:12 PM
I've received 2 .pub files over the last two days for quotes.

Microsoft does not make a Publisher viewer like they do with
their other programs. You can download a trial of the actual
software (300MB) that expires in 60 days though. Ugh.
(Update, won't work on XP too)

What I'm trying to say is, can anyone save these out as PDF files
for me? Thanks.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 06, 2011, 03:39:27 PM
This page lists three resources that should be able to convert for you. (http://www.ehow.com/how_6937482_open-pub-file-publisher.html)
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 06, 2011, 04:00:16 PM
I have MS Publisher. I can try it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 06, 2011, 04:07:15 PM
Hey Sean, I just got one of yours here! They must be fishing the local waters.
I told him that these files are not good for most of us.

Hey Bobby, do you print polypropylene as well?  ;D
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 06, 2011, 04:13:03 PM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: ebscreen on June 06, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
Yep, forgot about Zamzar.

Andy, they're willing to go canvas as well. Jus' sayin...

Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Sbrem on June 06, 2011, 07:03:35 PM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it

Oh yes, we use publisher and MacDraw... ::)

How about asking the person who sent it to you to save it as a .pdf? By printing to file?

Steve
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 06, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
I predict that anyone who can do that, could have saved it in a better file type in the first place, but Microsoft has had these instructions for years (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302835)

Of course, those of us with CorelDRAW and no Acrobat are probably going to have problems any way.

btw, at least one of eb's files was real trash, at least the one I got and converted. Looked like some sort of low res bit map conversion when converted and opened in Reader, and useless in CorelDRAW for any sort of manipulation. I'm glad that I probably won't be messin' with it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: ebscreen on June 06, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
Yeah, asked to save to a PDF, got another PUB file...
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Homer on June 06, 2011, 09:29:13 PM
oh yeah? I got an AI today file that was "designed by my daughter, she's a designer ya know" and it was 10.5 million nodes, rgb, cmyk, scaled to fit a napkin. . .and ugly as hell. . .I cringe when a customer tells me they have a designer in the family, usually means I'm getting a crap jpg designed in photoshop elements or word art. . .on another note, we have a wholesale customer that designs in word. . honest to jeebus. . .freakin word. . .they have been doing it for the past ten years, don't see a reason to buy a "fancy art drawin' program". . .Word does everything we need it to do. . .blows my mind. . .sometimes I would prefer a napkin. . . :o
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Evo on June 06, 2011, 10:11:00 PM
designs in word. . honest to jeebus. . .freakin word.

I got an Excel file once. Jpg's with text lined up top and bottom. It actually came out really good once I got them to email me the 4 different goofy fonts they were using.

Haven't gotten anything designed in Notepad yet.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: tpitman on June 07, 2011, 04:20:31 AM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it

That's what Microsoft would have you believe. Take those files to an offset print shop if you want to be an object of ridicule, although the newer pdf workflow software for direct-to-plate systems larger shops are installing make fixing the RGB color mess that is meant to be spot color less of a hassle. When I had to do that crap manually it always incorporated the uttering of oaths.

I seem to recall getting an ".ai" file where they'd just changed the extension. Plenty of photoshop files created at 72dpi since that's the default, then simply adjusted in the "image size" menu to 300 dpi. Business cards laid out in Excel, Word files with multiple columns of tabular data where they keep hitting the tab key on lines with less info to line up to the next column instead of learning to actually set tabs so when it's brought into InDesign or QuarkXpress you don't have to go into each and every line and manually delete all the extra "tabs" . . .
The abuse of software in the hands of the moronic and lazy continues apace . . .
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 07, 2011, 07:47:46 AM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it

You guys that I was being sarcastic, right?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: mk162 on June 07, 2011, 07:52:02 AM
Evo, I've gotten excel files too.  I don't get how people won't lay down a couple hundred bucks for a decent program.  It makes life so much easier.

Fresh, let me get this straight, you DON'T think publisher is an awesome program?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Denis Kolar on June 07, 2011, 08:11:33 AM
I work in a graphic department of a packaging company. You guys should see what I get every day. We have a policy that we do not accept the JPG files as a art file. We ask a customer for a vector file or at least a PDF file that we can work with.
Hour later we get the same frikin' JPG file saved to a PDF and sent to us.
Another think that I hate is a f'ing Quark, I HATE that software. I had to call customer service to activate the software again because I got a new mac, if you ever have to do that you will learn what the REAL PAIN is. You get the call center in Pakistan, and the CS rep has to tell you 30-some numbers to punch in the activation screen. I'm a foreign guy, and my English is not "perfecto", but c'mon: sorry, can you repeat, again please, was that a three, what? come again, five? oh it was nine, sorry................like that for 5 minutes for 30-some numbers. After having a functional trial for 30 days (I was afraid to call them to activate) I called them and now I have a copy of software that doe not work after they have "activated it". I call them back:"Guys, now it is not working?" their reply was: "sorry Sir, but for a phone support we will have to charge you $39.95!"
After that I was not polite anymore.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: mk162 on June 07, 2011, 08:31:26 AM
Dennis, it is so much easier to just bootleg everything.  ;D

Just kidding.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Sbrem on June 07, 2011, 08:40:44 AM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it

You guys that I was being sarcastic, right?

Yes...
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: tpitman on June 07, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
Publisher is awesome. All the real pros use it

You guys that I was being sarcastic, right?

Yeah. Just started having flashbacks . . . where are my meds???
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: inkman996 on June 07, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
I have an art explosion file sitting on my computer right now with zero clue how to open it. Seems it can only be opened by art explosion, emailed the customer a dozen times to resave as any file format available all he keeps sending me is the same art explosion file. Told him we need to recreate from scratch and about how much he freaked because he states he bought a professional art program why can we as professionals open it. You have got to be kidding me!
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: tpitman on June 07, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
Tell him "professional" art programs cost more than $19.95 (or whatever that cheap crap sells for). I understand folks' hesitation to drop several hundred on programs like Illustrator and Photoshop for personal use, but it's crap when they try and beat the system by buying cheap, then blame the printer for not being able to use their file.
Getting back to Microshaft Publisher, as often as not it took me much less time to pull any photos or art out of the file, copy the text and redo the whole job in Quark or InDesign. It was usually a 3-panel lettersize brochure someone had cobbled up.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: ebscreen on June 07, 2011, 01:16:49 PM
If you're going to produce a half ass design program to foist upon the unknowing public
at the goddamned least don't make the filetypes proprietary.

Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Sparkie on June 07, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
I have an art explosion file sitting on my computer right now with zero clue how to open it.
Inkman, what's the file extension on that one?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 07, 2011, 10:17:27 PM
.tnt lol!
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: tpitman on June 08, 2011, 05:24:35 AM
TNT???? You mean like AC/DC? Then can we call the files "Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap"?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: inkman996 on June 08, 2011, 07:59:11 AM
I have an art explosion file sitting on my computer right now with zero clue how to open it.
Inkman, what's the file extension on that one?

.npp
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 08, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
Isn't Art Explosion a clipart collection?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: mk162 on June 08, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
Yeah, but I think they offer a design program as well that says it converts to a pdf easily.  Have them do that.  Some people are just plain ignorant.  I am done accepting word files.  It constantly changes fonts and customers get pissed when their design is different on the PROOF.  It's like come on, you used a crappy program and when it spits out crappy art, your pissed?
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 08, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
I would much rather deal with somebody's hand drawn sketch than work with their MS Paint created art.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 08, 2011, 09:52:18 AM
And then there's these that we often see, but usually not quite as small and stretched.
I couldn't wait to see what I would get after this:
What do you have in the way of art?
We have a computer file.
What type of file is it?
I don't know, but I'll send it

Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 08, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
I get a lot of screen shots of mock-ups from from CustomInk that I'm expected to work from.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Frog on June 08, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
This is the digital equivalent of a rough sketch on a napkin...stolen form the table next to them lol!
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Sbrem on June 08, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
I get a lot of screen shots of mock-ups from from CustomInk that I'm expected to work from.

They're one of our best salesmen... we get the link, see what has to be done, do it for less and always get the sale. I love those guys ;D

Steve

Just five minutes ago I blew up a coffee cup from a business card about 800% to show someone what it will look like. They just stared and stared... now what? "Would you like me to find you a new cup for your shirts?" "You can do that?" And though I don't say it out loud, "Of course I can do that. Why do you think you came here?" At least I got a chuckle out of it, and I'm pretty sure a couple of dozen t's with a one color front.
Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on June 08, 2011, 10:19:06 AM

They're one of our best salesmen... we get the link, see what has to be done, do it for less and always get the sale. I love those guys ;D

Steve

Yea, when I get a CustimInk mock-up, my pencil becomes less sharp, if you know what I mean.

Title: Re: Microsoft Publisher
Post by: blue moon on June 10, 2011, 12:52:52 PM

They're one of our best salesmen... we get the link, see what has to be done, do it for less and always get the sale. I love those guys ;D

Steve

Yea, when I get a CustimInk mock-up, my pencil becomes less sharp, if you know what I mean.

I had one of my customers send me a file from custom ink the other day. She was surprised that it was not good enough. I asked her to explain how was I supposed to print it? And this is for a contract customer! they should know better!