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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: Denis Kolar on June 05, 2012, 09:31:40 PM
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The one frames that I posted the pic on are spotless, but the ones I ordered before, some of them have some tape left on them.
Some of it is rubber tape, but most of it masking tape. Not huge deal or much tape, but I would like top clean them off so all of them look the same.
My question is, what you use for cleaning of Newman frames and removal of the tape?
Would soaking them in water with soap help with removing the tape?
I have only 5 to clean from 23 frames I bought.
Thanks.
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The one frames that I posted the pic on are spotless, but the ones I ordered before, some of them have some tape left on them.
Some of it is rubber tape, but most of it masking tape. Not huge deal or much tape, but I would like top clean them off so all of them look the same.
My question is, what you use for cleaning of Newman frames and removal of the tape?
Would soaking them in water with soap help with removing the tape?
I have only 5 to clean from 23 frames I bought.
Thanks.
Sand Blasting works.
Wish I had the equipment to do that to some of the used ones I got. Instead, all kinds of glue removal and fine emery cloth and lots of elbow grease.
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Acetone
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Acetone
Tried :(
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I've used Franmar's "De-Haze" gel. Brush it on, leave it overnight. It'll remove just about anything. Wear gloves, though. Franmar hustles one of their soybean products as a paint stripper in "This Old House" magazine, or used to. It's what prompted me to try the De-Haze stuff.
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ickee stickee un stuck from franmar
soak
simple green (ickee stickee is oily)
scrub
rinse (pressure washer)
repeat
you sir have lucked out getting a clutch of newmans and only five need cleaning. don't forget to polish those channels
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Oh how about that stuff from Franmar. Is it Ickee Stickee something.
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Beat me to it.
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Something compatible to ickee stickee that is made by Easyway?
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Whatever you do, do not use EasiSolv Gold. It got the paint of the roller and not much of the tape :)
Luckily I tried it on the small area.
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Sand Blasting works.
Care to elaborate? I have a nice blasting cabinet that they could fit in. Would be a little tight but I could do it.
Also what media would you use? I'm loaded with aluminum oxide right now, but have glass bead as well.
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We have a product called XenZu PAC that is an adhesive remover with an ink dergader in it as well. This would work. Soybean based.
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you sir have lucked out getting a clutch of newmans and only five need cleaning. don't forget to polish those channels
The first batch of 15 frames I got, I did not have to do anything to them. I just had to wipe off a bit of dirt just before stretching the eCon panels. They were barely used.
The other batch of 8 frames, 3 were good and 5 of them have a bit tape on them. Nothing bad, but I would like to clean them off to be same as the other ones.
I ordered them the same day, but 8 of them came in day later due to the longer shipping, and I ordered them a few hours before the clean ones.
Now I wish I ordered them all from the second guy, he has still some of them left.
I believe Sparkie got some of them too
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+1 Degradent, I've gotten more than a few nasty frames, and any way you do it, it's going to take some time. I coat with degradent, let it soak under the edges, and then then use a bristle brush to pull up edges. Gotta pull the big chunks, but little slivers and such come right off.
Oh, and put an old screen in the bottom of your sink. ;)
Sand blasting sounds interesting--wouldn't you want to use something softer than the finish? Salt or something similar?
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The most trouble I have removing is that damn clear packaging tape. Seems I inevitably have to bust out a single edge razor blade to get the last few chunks off.
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I used a wire wheel in the drill just leave the locking strips in so you don't round out the channel. I tried all kinds of chemicals but a good old soft brass wire wheel did the trick and fast. Just do it away from your screens or prep area as it makes a mess.
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I used a wire wheel in the drill just leave the locking strips in so you don't round out the channel. I tried all kinds of chemicals but a good old soft brass wire wheel did the trick and fast. Just do it away from your screens or prep area as it makes a mess.
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I do not really want to take off the color together with the tape :)
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Sand Blasting works.
Care to elaborate? I have a nice blasting cabinet that they could fit in. Would be a little tight but I could do it.
Also what media would you use? I'm loaded with aluminum oxide right now, but have glass bead as well.
Twas a joke, that's why it was followed with the other stuff..........
When you get stuff with the white tape on it, it's a real pita.
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i use spit an old rags :D
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I had some ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE MZX frames and I used Goof Off with lots of paper towels. Most of them got a rough treatment with a stiff brush soaked with more Goof Off. Some I even soaked in a 2 inch galvanized iron pipe with a cap threaded on to hold in the Goof Off. I soaked them vertically to soften the layer, after layer, after layer, of emulsion HARDENED with many half-a**ed attempts at reclaiming.
It was a nightmare. Just 5 bad ones in your big batch of frames, with a little adhesive to deal with??!?? You got off easy, my friend....
My wife still reminds me every few weeks not to EVER buy ANYTHING off of Craigslist without pictures of the ACTUAL ITEMS, or hands-on.
Many of the tubes were crushed from over clamping. I actually had to pull the endcaps off of most of the "ROUND" tubes with heat and a threaded dent puller, straighten the crushed rollers, and re-epoxy the end caps. I built a mandrel with an integrated "die" on the end, to drive through the tubes for straightening. It was my first experience with Newmans, and I would NEVER, EVER, E.V.E.R.!! do it again!
I should have suspected there was a problem, since they were so cheap. I'll bet out of the 17 usable frames that I actually ended up with, UPS delivered 2-3 pounds of plastisol caked on to those suckers, and their horrible, included mesh. The seller, (who is no longer in the printing trade, DUH!!!!) "threw in" the more expensive Newman Tension Meter (the case for which was caked with paint booth overspray) and the Newman magnesium wrench, in a similar condition.
THAT ADVENTURE LEFT A MARK ON THIS NAIVE OLDE FARTE.
If you buy used Newmans, protect yourself somehow. There is a reason they are for sale.....BEWARE.
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If you buy used Newmans, protect yourself somehow. There is a reason they are for sale.....BEWARE.
They probably said, "Well, we could either clean 'em, or sell 'em." They sold 'em.
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If you buy used Newmans, protect yourself somehow. There is a reason they are for sale.....BEWARE.
They probably said, "Well, we could either clean 'em, or sell 'em." They sold 'em.
In my case, the seller had a fire and went out of business (after Ins. Payoff). So I guess not much motivation to clean em either.
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Here it is, I found it.
http://www.doitbest.com/Multi-purpose+and+all-purpose+cleaners-Motsenbocker-model-407-01-doitbest-sku-648876.dib (http://www.doitbest.com/Multi-purpose+and+all-purpose+cleaners-Motsenbocker-model-407-01-doitbest-sku-648876.dib)
Scrape the tape as much as you can, spray this on it and let it soak for a few minutes. Wipe with the paper towel. Done :)
You might need to use a scraper on a few more spots, but it should not be a problem to remove tape.
Tape residue, which is toughest to remove is a piece of cake with this.
Se before and after pics.
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Nice!
What about ink and other gunk that might be on the screens? Does it work on them as well?
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Nice!
What about ink and other gunk that might be on the screens? Does it work on them as well?
"Adhesives, oily foods, and grease stain remover. Petroleum based formulation can effectively removes such items as: chewing gum, adhesives, grease, tar, motor oil, sap, and naturally oil based foods such as salad dressing. 22 oz. trigger."
That is from the link I posted. On mine, I did not have much other gunk that the tape and a bit of ink. But now, everything is taken off, some of them would look almost as a brand new ones if they did not have a few scrapes (not a big ones, and not big of a deal).
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Hey Guys, shop that around if you decide to try it out.
That link was like $18.xx with shipping. Wife just ordered it on Amazon for 10.75 WITH shipping. And was 1/2 the shipping time. Just sayin.
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Hey Guys, shop that around if you decide to try it out.
That link was like $18.xx with shipping. Wife just ordered it on Amazon for 10.75 WITH shipping. And was 1/2 the shipping time. Just sayin.
You can get it in most hardware shops. I had this link on because I bought it in that store. Most of true Value, Ace Hardware, Lowe's and Home Depot stores should have them.
Other good one is Goo Gone, I have that one too. People actually like that one better the the one I posted first. I just tried the one that had nozzle and continued using because it was working :)
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You can get it in most hardware shops.
Hardware Shop?
Where the he!! you living boy?
I'm in a city of 6+ million and they have all gone the way of Home Depot and Lowes, lol.
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You can get it in most hardware shops.
Hardware Shop?
Where the he!! you living boy?
I'm in a city of 6+ million and they have all gone the way of Home Depot and Lowes, lol.
I'm in a Cleveland suburb. We have them all over the place.
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There is a hardware store here that's been around probably 50+ years. I'm surprised they don't get in trouble because when you walk in there you are duckin and dodgin stuff everywhere, hanging from the ceiling and everything but it is pretty cool to see all the older stuff they have.
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There is a hardware store here that's been around probably 50+ years. I'm surprised they don't get in trouble because when you walk in there you are duckin and dodgin stuff everywhere, hanging from the ceiling and everything but it is pretty cool to see all the older stuff they have.
That reminds me of a hardware store that used to be in my small-town section here in Orlando. John's Hardware in College Park. Dark, dusty, old guys sitting around, but they had crap in there you'd never find in Home Depot, stuff like the pipe from a wall-mounted tank to a floor-mounted crapper, which I had in my first house. I don't mean the novelty brass ones you can buy with a high tank and pull chain. I mean one from around 1940. I was advised to just replace the toilet, by the way, as getting those pipes fitting precisely in the bottom of the tank and the back of the bowl without leaking was a challenge for a real plumber. There's still a store on the South Trail that's pretty close in "atmosphere" as it were, and with our rash of hurricanes about 8 years ago, that small store was performing miracles in terms of sourcing stuff to get people through the power outages, and they didn't screw people on the price.
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We have an old mom and pop shop that is around the corner and they are slowly closing day by day. It's really sad.
I try to buy what I can there... but most of the time they don't have what I need. :(