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screen printing => Separations => Topic started by: sweetts on March 06, 2012, 07:40:08 PM

Title: How would you separate this?
Post by: sweetts on March 06, 2012, 07:40:08 PM
So do I do black and halftone the pink on this or do black and two pink colors? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: jsheridan on March 06, 2012, 07:48:50 PM
I'd do two pinks and a black
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: blue moon on March 06, 2012, 07:54:13 PM
on big solid areas like this, a halftone will come out grainy and will not look as good as three spot colors. I give the customers a choice if they are looking to save money, but otherwise, as John said, print is as spot.

pierre
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: sweetts on March 06, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
I was thinking 3 screens but because I have not done a lot of halftone work I figured I should ask to be safe. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: sweetts on March 06, 2012, 09:37:52 PM
So until now I never had a customer request a color match, i dont have a mixing system so whats the most economical way to accomplish this?
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: DILLON on March 06, 2012, 10:36:12 PM
I always eyeballed it! I'm curious too, though. I know that everyone's computer screens are different, and that pantone systems are the right way, but I haven't had a problem mixing by eye, yet. I think the correct way would be to get a pantone swatch set, although they may be too expensive for some jobs...
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 06, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
I think a small mixing system is a great investment. You can get quart sized kits for around $250 depending on the manufacturer. You should also get a Pantone color deck which aren't very cheap but necessary to show customers the hundreds upon hundreds of colors you can mix for them. You should upcharge for this service. Most people won't balk at paying extra for it.

Just offer them your stock colors at no extra charge or they can pick their own color for an extra $10-$20.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: jsheridan on March 07, 2012, 02:03:18 AM
2nd the mixing system.

I got my Wilflex EPIC MX system with 2 gallons of white and some pantone books for a few bills over $400 bucks.

The best part about it, you don't have to eye it or add a little of this, little of that to make a color. You can make the same color time and time again and as little or as much as you need. When you're done with the color, you can use the recycling feature to mix it into something else to help keep inks levels on shelves down to a manageable level.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: Frog on March 07, 2012, 09:10:08 AM
So until now I never had a customer request a color match, i dont have a mixing system so whats the most economical way to accomplish this?

Just recently, in the ink section, we had a thread about suppliers who will mix for you.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: mk162 on March 07, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
unless you need a color that isn't in the wilflex software
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: 3Deep on March 07, 2012, 10:03:17 AM
If its a large job or they will be coming back every other month or so I would let the ink company mix me a gal if its just a small order eyeball you a qt or enough to do the job.  I got an old Rutland color mixing book and I,ve mixed many colors by using there guide and I use Union inks.

Darryl
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: mk162 on March 07, 2012, 10:20:17 AM
The only time I got a gallon of custom ink, the customer went t*ts up.  I now have a 3/4 gallon of PMS 464...and it's ugly.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: sweetts on March 07, 2012, 10:23:17 AM
Well I just got off the phone and they decided to do a one color ribbon to save money. This job can't get easier. I think the next investment might be the ink system time to get more professional. I know wilflex is popular any other recommendations?

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Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: Frog on March 07, 2012, 11:09:55 AM
unless you need a color that isn't in the wilflex software

Or whatever brand and system they have and deal.
Beckmar, the first I heard of, had Union.
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: Fluid on March 07, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
coming in late but figured I would chime in anyway.

Two pinks would have looked better yet will do ok with one.  You could have mixed a tiny amount of white with your pink to get the lighter pink yet using a mixing system is definitely something you should consider.   I used both the Rutland Plasticol mixing system as well as the Wilflex PC system. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.


Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: sweetts on March 07, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
Its not an issue now but I was thinking just add a little white seemed like the easiest way. I guess after the mad rush of orders I will compare the mixing systems

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Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: whitewater on March 07, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
If one of our customers are picky we have them stop in and we mix in front of them....I've had absolutely no problems doing this...if the ink looks shitty i say "hey you picked it out" ;)
Title: Re: How would you separate this?
Post by: Gilligan on March 09, 2012, 06:37:41 PM
If one of our customers are picky we have them stop in and we mix in front of them....I've had absolutely no problems doing this...if the ink looks shitty i say "hey you picked it out" ;)

I like that!