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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Homer on November 14, 2024, 06:40:38 PM

Title: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Homer on November 14, 2024, 06:40:38 PM
It's finally time to upgrade, anyone here using one of these?  tips, tricks, pointers? The tension and trimming system seems like it is greatly improved. Hoping hats run a little easier for us, those Richardsons always give us fits. We also have for sale (2)- 1998/99 -4 head barudans if anyone is interested, I'll give you a smoking deal you can't refuse.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: DonR on November 15, 2024, 01:12:32 PM
I have a 6 head 2020 Barudan.  Runs great!  No problems with Richard caps.  I keep the top tension a little more than recommended. I find if it gets to loose or the boobin gets to tight you will get a birds nest jam.  The screws for the needle plate strip easily. Watch out when when you take them out and don't over tighten them.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Rockers on November 16, 2024, 09:36:19 PM
Good decision to buy now before the 20% Trump tariffs on imports kicks in.
Equipment costs will go through the roof.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Homer on November 17, 2024, 08:50:43 AM
I have a 6 head 2020 Barudan.  Runs great!  No problems with Richard caps.  I keep the top tension a little more than recommended. I find if it gets to loose or the boobin gets to tight you will get a birds nest jam.  The screws for the needle plate strip easily. Watch out when when you take them out and don't over tighten them.

excellent, are you able to run hats @ 1k stitches /min like they say? I'm a bit skeptical on that but I'd be happy with 7-800. we're at 500 now and it's painfully slow.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: DonR on November 17, 2024, 09:09:06 AM
I normally run hats around 800 just to be safe
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: mk162 on November 18, 2024, 09:37:38 AM
We have a 2016 and run hats around 750.  We could go faster on some depending on design and material, but we just stick with 750.

Our previous machine struggled with caps at any speed.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Homer on November 18, 2024, 09:55:35 AM
We have a 2016 and run hats around 750.  We could go faster on some depending on design and material, but we just stick with 750.

Our previous machine struggled with caps at any speed.

What did you have before?  I thought about making the jump to Tajima but we're so used to Barudan, I figured we couldn't go wrong either way. Plus we also have a boat load of Barudan mighty hoops.  Should be shipping to us end of this month, so we'll see how she goes. We really need to get hats dialed in better, we struggle way too much there.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: mk162 on November 18, 2024, 10:34:52 AM
We had an SWF.  I really liked it for anything outside of hats.  It was a dual function machine, which was pretty cool. For what it was, it was a good machine.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: 3Deep on November 18, 2024, 11:45:50 AM
Good deal Jay, sad to say large equipment purchase's for us is down hill as we are looking at retirement in the next few years unless our kid's decide to take over, I came close a year back on pulling the trigger on a new embroidery machine.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Homer on November 18, 2024, 04:54:58 PM
Good deal Jay, sad to say large equipment purchase's for us is down hill as we are looking at retirement in the next few years unless our kid's decide to take over, I came close a year back on pulling the trigger on a new embroidery machine.

Quality of life D, we drove the struggle bus for way too long with the old machines. Screen printing however, not a chance I'd buy anything new. Retirement sounds great but I have another 20 to go before I can pull it off - unless the industry takes a serious down turn. Which who knows, everyone orders online now and DTF is taking over around here unfortunately. Then Ill go stock shelves at Home Depot and take naps in the break room, walk around with a clipboard, act busy... :P.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: 3Deep on November 19, 2024, 10:29:54 AM
Good deal Jay, sad to say large equipment purchase's for us is down hill as we are looking at retirement in the next few years unless our kid's decide to take over, I came close a year back on pulling the trigger on a new embroidery machine.

Quality of life D, we drove the struggle bus for way too long with the old machines. Screen printing however, not a chance I'd buy anything new. Retirement sounds great but I have another 20 to go before I can pull it off - unless the industry takes a serious down turn. Which who knows, everyone orders online now and DTF is taking over around here unfortunately. Then Ill go stock shelves at Home Depot and take naps in the break room, walk around with a clipboard, act busy... :P.

Sonny called me about a month ago, he is selling DTF printing equipment now and yeah I'm with you wouldn't buy anymore screenprinting equipment, what I have now will take me out the rest of the way unless it just goes to chit and if that happens I'll greet you at the Walmart door LOL
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: bimmridder on November 19, 2024, 11:49:33 AM
I know this isn't what the thread is about, but I'm with you guys. I hope all of my equipment outlives my career here. I dread the thought of having to buy anything new.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Admiral on November 19, 2024, 12:01:35 PM
I would say, make sure you network the machine and keep it all as simple, easy as possible workflow wise.  We barcode and scan in all of our designs, makes it so you don't have to track machines, keep the queue clear, etc, but that's for a lot of embroidery machines. 

OT:

Hmm, I like new stuff.  Easier to use, usually more productive too.  I'll keep upgrading every 8-10 years.  I want to get rid of our oldest green Tajima single heads but we keep expanding and keeping them.

Those Gauntlet III's though, that kind of thing will stick around for quite a while, only 6-7 years old but I can see those sitting in place for 15+ years before upgrading. 
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Evo on November 19, 2024, 12:24:29 PM
The screws for the needle plate strip easily. Watch out when when you take them out and don't over tighten them.

THIS! On almost *EVERY* industrial sewing and/or embroidery machine ever made. A shallow slotted screw or 2.5mm hex screw into cast iron...what could go wrong?
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: ebscreen on November 19, 2024, 04:56:12 PM
The screws for the needle plate strip easily. Watch out when when you take them out and don't over tighten them.

THIS! On almost *EVERY* industrial sewing and/or embroidery machine ever made. A shallow slotted screw or 2.5mm hex screw into cast iron...what could go wrong?

And there is almost never enough meat in the casting to tap next size or helicoil. Definitely an afterthought on the part of engineering, per usual.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: Evo on November 19, 2024, 05:53:34 PM
The screws for the needle plate strip easily. Watch out when when you take them out and don't over tighten them.

THIS! On almost *EVERY* industrial sewing and/or embroidery machine ever made. A shallow slotted screw or 2.5mm hex screw into cast iron...what could go wrong?

And there is almost never enough meat in the casting to tap next size or helicoil. Definitely an afterthought on the part of engineering, per usual.

To be fair, these are complex machines trying to perform repeated precision tasks in cramped spaces. Basically giant cast iron pocket watches. There are better fasteners, but sewing in general follows very traditional tooling methods. Most any factory in the world has slotted screw drivers lying around, and *maybe* a set of hex keys.

I have an Adler cylinder arm sewing machine at home that uses stainless torx screws for almost everything and I LOVE IT.
Title: Re: Incoming- New Barudan 6 Head
Post by: ebscreen on November 21, 2024, 12:57:14 PM
To be fair, these are complex machines trying to perform repeated precision tasks in cramped spaces. Basically giant cast iron pocket watches. There are better fasteners, but sewing in general follows very traditional tooling methods. Most any factory in the world has slotted screw drivers lying around, and *maybe* a set of hex keys.

I have an Adler cylinder arm sewing machine at home that uses stainless torx screws for almost everything and I LOVE IT.

For sure. Needle plates are designed for ease of manufacturing though, a couple tabs for attachment points bent off the side or back would negate
the whole issue of possibly bricking the entire machine because oops screw stripped. Who the eff uses 2.5mm screws anyways.

My fathers brand new Ford truck continually drained the battery because an ota update caused the display to get stuck in a boot loop that couldn't
be killed. Sometimes it's the little things that ruin the whole thing.