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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: mk162 on January 23, 2012, 11:30:30 AM

Title: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: mk162 on January 23, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
I will be printing on pure neoprene, no fabric coating on the outside, anybody have an idea what ink to use? 
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Frog on January 23, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
Look at the Nazdar substrate chart. http://www.nazdar.com/Nazdar_Ink_Chart.pdf (http://www.nazdar.com/Nazdar_Ink_Chart.pdf)

Then in a pinch, if there is something new, they will experiment with samples you can send them.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Homer on January 23, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
I've printed the floor mats for a spinning event, pure neoprene, soaks up the sweat and the stink. . .I used straight plastisol and a heat gun the monitor the cure closely and my personal mat is still in great shape. . .worth a shot.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: mk162 on January 23, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
These are going to be touched a lot.  I might try some catalyst in them to see what happens.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: sweetts on January 23, 2012, 03:01:31 PM
Homer could you post a picture? 

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Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on January 23, 2012, 04:07:20 PM
IF its white ink i use a 75/25 white/ puff mix.plastisol.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Sbrem on January 23, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
NazDar 9500 series air dry should, I think, stick to that

Steve
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: mk162 on January 23, 2012, 04:36:28 PM
it's a really neat rubber.  I expected a wet suit material.  It's instead a sheet of rubber...not very spongy at all.

I got 2 pieces to test on.  Both sides are identical.  They are starting a test run with about 100-200 units.  We'll see how that goes.  I think the product has potential, but they need to get rid of the stink on these things.  They are marketing them toward shopping mothers.  They aren't going to want to haul something with them that smells.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Frog on January 23, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
it's a really neat rubber.  I expected a wet suit material.  It's instead a sheet of rubber...not very spongy at all.

I got 2 pieces to test on.  Both sides are identical.  They are starting a test run with about 100-200 units.  We'll see how that goes.  I think the product has potential, but they need to get rid of the stink on these things.  They are marketing them toward shopping mothers.  They aren't going to want to haul something with them that smells.

As mothers, they have probably, at some point, more than a little experience hauling around something that smells.
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Homer on January 23, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
if it's more of a rubber, closed cell type material -then you may want to go to some air dry like Steve said -avoid heat, they will smell even worse. .
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on January 23, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
I love the smell..
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: Gabe on January 23, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
if i were you i make sure you charge accordingly
those air dry inks gives me the headaches and allergies
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: spotcolorsupply on January 23, 2012, 07:57:41 PM
I love the smell..
The smell of $$$... I feel the same about UV inks. Back in the day, I loved the smell of UV shops!!
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: mk162 on January 23, 2012, 08:44:52 PM
brannon, since you sell inks, any ideas?
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on January 24, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
nothin like the smell of 50/50 tees coming off the dryer in the fall with the doors open..
Title: Re: Ink for Neoprene?
Post by: whitewater on January 24, 2012, 05:18:57 PM
if i were you i make sure you charge accordingly
those air dry inks gives me the headaches and allergies

i've been using some air dry inks from nazdar..I'm not there at the shop so cannot remember the 2 series i use. I print on mylar and glass..

I wear  respirator..Last summer I printed next to my open door and It still made my throat sore for a week or more..i seemed fine while printing but it hit me the next day...don't take a chance..Also to cure it faster I set up a couple hairdryers to blow on the material..instead of the 3 minutes to cure, it was 20-30 seconds...If you think you'll do it that way I'll post a few pics to show my setup..I can do 150-175 pcs. of mylar per hour the way I do it.