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General => Industry News/ Announcements/Press Releases/Product Promotion => Topic started by: 3Deep on April 12, 2021, 10:17:51 AM
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Got an email this morning about there being a shortage of components to make plastisol inks, anyone else get this from your ink supplier, so far it's coming from a company distributor of Wilflex.
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I heard that from John @ Union. The white ink was the big one.
Great harder to get.
Sucks!
Shane
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There is a shortage of Rutland in Europe. They said something about a big producer in Texas not working for a while.
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Yes Rutland white has been hard to get the last few months in Canada , I am having to stock more than ever no more just in time.
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White ink you say? So my decision to test out every white ink known to man and have dozens of gallons of white laying around may finally pay off?
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White ink you say? So my decision to test out every white ink known to man and have dozens of gallons of white laying around may finally pay off?
that strategy only works for hoarders! :)
pj
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There is a shortage on pigments. Rio is going to hard to come by...
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We've seen some backorders for Union Mixe colors.
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My ink supplier just told me that Wilflex has a 20-30% price increase coming.
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My friend in New Zealand is saying that there is basically no white plastisol in the country at all and it's a 2 month wait. And prices have increased something like 5 times
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It was obvious when Polyone bought Rutland that the prices were going to go up.
Now they have a good excuse.
Time to start looking more seriously at the Italian and Turkish plastisols, I have had good results with EPTA, Manoukian.
Cotton and shipping prices are going up like crazy as well.
Going to be a fun year.
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It was obvious when Polyone bought Rutland that the prices were going to go up.
Now they have a good excuse.
Time to start looking more seriously at the Italian and Turkish plastisols, I have had good results with EPTA, Manoukian.
Cotton and shipping prices are going up like crazy as well.
Going to be a fun year.
Funny you should mention Turkish plastisol my supplier just mentioned it as an alternative this week , are they known for there plastisol inks?
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does anybody have info from manufacturers on this? Are we looking at a shortage coming in? should we be stocking up?
pierre
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does anybody have info from manufacturers on this? Are we looking at a shortage coming in? should we be stocking up?
pierre
This looks like it is soon to be a self-fulfilling prophecy like toilet paper. Folks who used to consider a Costco case more than enough, soon brought their kids to help push the second shopping cart full.
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does anybody have info from manufacturers on this? Are we looking at a shortage coming in? should we be stocking up?
pierre
i talked to my rep and he said theres low stock on specialty inks - glitters, odd/infrequently used bases... wilflex is concentrating manufacturing on the core product line so print shops dont run out.
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One Stroke has a price increase coming - I don't recall the percentage but I'm going to blow through a few k and just order stuff. fk it.
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does anybody have info from manufacturers on this? Are we looking at a shortage coming in? should we be stocking up?
pierre
i talked to my rep and he said theres low stock on specialty inks - glitters, odd/infrequently used bases... wilflex is concentrating manufacturing on the core product line so print shops dont run out.
Same for Rutland and Union. Rutland is still producing their core white inks and mixing systems. Union is concentrating on some whites and their RFU maxopake and ultrasoft colors.
Also, if you are using the Rutland Super Poly, you may want to start looking for an alternative. It could be a month or more before they get that out to distributors.
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I have a standing order for a 5 gallon of Rutland street fighter with my supplier , so they always keep one aside for me , just got an email that there out again and should come get my pail before it disappears.
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I can tell you that there are certain raw materials that are in a Force Majeure situation causing Avient to temporarily suspend manufacturing of certain products across all brands. They - and others - are struggling with acquiring the right raws and necessary quantities to meet demand. Some brands are more affected negatively than others but long lead times are the norm.
As far as price increases from them across their brands, they put that on hold a month or so ago. It sure when it will be implemented, but initial percentages were 8 to 15%. If someone is saying thirty percent, well that may be the case if you want to rationalize a product line, which they and others will probably do.
I think what you will see is that lower costing (read lower margin) products will potentially be rationalized or increased more dramatically. Makes sense though with tightened raw material supply.
We are getting price increases from all manufacturers regularly- hard to keep up. This is a fact. Has eBay one tried to but copper or lumber lately? Or fuel. Everything is going up.
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I can tell you that there are certain raw materials that are in a Force Majeure situation causing Avient to temporarily suspend manufacturing of certain products across all brands. They - and others - are struggling with acquiring the right raws and necessary quantities to meet demand. Some brands are more affected negatively than others but long lead times are the norm.
As far as price increases from them across their brands, they put that on hold a month or so ago. It sure when it will be implemented, but initial percentages were 8 to 15%. If someone is saying thirty percent, well that may be the case if you want to rationalize a product line, which they and others will probably do.
I think what you will see is that lower costing (read lower margin) products will potentially be rationalized or increased more dramatically. Makes sense though with tightened raw material supply.
We are getting price increases from all manufacturers regularly- hard to keep up. This is a fact. Has eBay one tried to but copper or lumber lately? Or fuel. Everything is going up.
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thanx Rob!
what do you think the chances are of actually running out of white ink?
pierre
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One stroke is already high enough, guess I'll have go ahead and order some, because we print a booty load of comfort colors and 1stroke ELTS is our go to for those and our second ink is wilflex, Frog you might be right there might be a run on white ink and they can jack the price up like gas but we have to have it, I guess black ink will be next ::)
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Hello Pierre! The answer is ...... it depends which brand, which white. We are definitely seeing significant delays in lead times, but so far none of our whites (Wilflex brand) have been put on the suspended list. I cannot speak to other Avient brands.
I know we use to sell a lot of IC knockout, and that product has been discontinued some time ago due to raw material issues. It happened to be the lowest costing white as well, so perhaps rationalization of the raws into more premium whites. Again, I would bet this will happen across the industry.
And for those that buy white from small local manufacturers- keep an eye on what you are getting if your price is not increasing. It is not sustainable for a manufacturer to just absorb costs. So they have to pass it along, or change (cheapen) the recipe. Like reduce TIO2 and increase filler. If you are seeing weight per gallon shifts then you can bet that is taking place. Most Wilflex whites weight about 13.5 lbs per gallon. I have seen some cheap whites below 12......
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This doesn`t seem to come out of the blue. I spoke to the official Union Ink distributer here in Japan today about this. They told us they are aware of the situation for a a while now and have increased stock levels accordingly. They are good with stock on Union Inks for at least one year they said.
And Wilflex Asia does not rely on US resources for their products. All coming from their Chinese plant .
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just ordered $15k worth of ink. that is a boatload for us and colors will probably last us a year. 2 drums of white, I thin will get few months out of it.
we cleared 3 different suppliers and took almost all mixing ink we use. I think we left 3 gallons behind and bought over 100. We still need few colors, will have to look for those nest week.
pierre
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Pierre, don't forget that canoe paddles are a great option for getting the bottom of those barrels!
tp