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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Rockers on July 16, 2020, 12:09:25 AM
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Coming from a M&R Diamondback which has been sold, now considering getting a ROQ Next 12/10 or 14/10.
So far I have heard only good things about ROQ.
Would like to know a little more of you ROQ users why you love your machines that much. What are the big pros for you running a ROQ, have you experienced any negatives?
The only thing that could still change my mind is the new M&R Cobra press but I doubt they can beat the price I was quoted by ROQ.
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I work for Ryonet - I am their product manager. Which means I know everyone on the ROQ staff.
The only real negative I have heard from customers is the ability to print full long sleeves.
All presses that have the wide press arms have issues with loading slimmer or smaller long sleeve garments. So off set sleeve platens have been made.
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My one quote on the Cobra press seems to put it about 40% more expensive than the Sportsman. I think it will be replacing Sportsmans and Gauntlets though and performance wise looks like it may be better than the Gauntlet III, we will find out more next week of course though.
We are really tight on space so we need to up our productivity anyway we can, I will be buying an 8 color Cobra as soon as possible.
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Coming from a M&R Diamondback which has been sold, now considering getting a ROQ Next 12/10 or 14/10.
So far I have heard only good things about ROQ.
Would like to know a little more of you ROQ users why you love your machines that much. What are the big pros for you running a ROQ, have you experienced any negatives?
The only thing that could still change my mind is the new M&R Cobra press but I doubt they can beat the price I was quoted by ROQ.
Got a nice Roq that became available today!
8c/12 You XL with 2 flashes. 31,000 prints
Add 2 print heads or leave as is
Winston
904.3430848
winstric@yahoo.com
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We have been really busy, plus I'm fighting with the insurance company or I would write a very long post like I tend to do.
We have 2 Roqs, 1 early ECO(now called the NEXT) from 2013 and 1 YOU from 2014. Never, let me repeat that, NEVER had a issue that stopped us from printing for more than 15min in all those years. The one thing was early on and we were running the print head at full speed with WAY too much pressure. Basically the motor shut down with a warning/error code that is was under a lot of "stress". Unplugged something and plugged it back in to reset it and we were back up and running.
We have been teetering on a big move since January. If and when it happens we will most likely add a NEXT and a oval and to be honest I can't wait.
The machines make sense(the main thing that sold me years ago was the indexing system that the ECO and ovals use, which was later copied by another very well known company after their ridiculously long oval chains would loos registration). They don't break. The minimal maintenance (like 10min every few months depending on use)that is required can be done by the guy that sweeps the floors. Without hesitation I would buy again and again. Sleeves are not the best, but I think they now have special pallets people like, we don't do enough sleeves to e'ff with them.
Get it you won't be sorry.
This is one of those thing I feel so confident in that if I had the money I'd make your down payment, and in a month(it takes a few weeks to get used to the difference from a M&R/anatol/Workhorse type machine) when you love it you could pay me back. But let's be honest were all printers and we ain't go money like that! ;D
PM me if you want to talk more. I'm happy to type/post more but with the BS I'm dealing with the insurance company about I just don't have the time right now.
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PM me if you want to talk more. I'm happy to type/post more but with the BS I'm dealing with the insurance company about I just don't have the time right now.
I have a baseball bat with some nails in it, who needs to get got? l'll saddle up and meet at the flag pole.
sounds like story time to me ;D
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PM me if you want to talk more. I'm happy to type/post more but with the BS I'm dealing with the insurance company about I just don't have the time right now.
I have a baseball bat with some nails in it, who needs to get got? l'll saddle up and meet at the flag pole.
sounds like story time to me ;D
If I could only tell the story with out giving myself massive heartburn and anxiety I would. But I am so worked up this whole last week I don't really wan to get into it. If bats are needed I appreciate that.
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Big fan.
The low maintenance is wonderful. They just run. The design makes sense. They register rapidly at setup don't go out of reg in the middle of your run. They stay well enough in parallel. Maintenance icon pops up when needed and press ops follow instructions. Repairs, rarely needed, and almost exclusively related to cyls which aren't manufactured by press companies are straightforward.
Agree with Colin on long sleeves. I don't think Ryonet or S.roque has taken the sleeve thing seriously enough for our market but you won't hit a brick wall with it either. We have the dual outboard platens and they work fine for most sleeve work that can't throw on a 5" platen. A larger footprint helps here since the arms taper.
Service has been top notch but, as I said, rarely needed. The automatic products team there gets it done and comes up with solutions. Tooling, parts, etc. have all been rapidly available for the most part.
I greatly prefer the operation of the Eco over the You but appreciate the central elevation of the You over the Eco. Where's the Next fit in?
My favorite- these presses eliminate themselves from the troubleshooting process. If you have an issue with a print run, it probably ain't the press.
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Where's the Next fit in?
If you have a ECO like mine WITHOUT the digital registration and digital head read out, you have what they now are calling the NEXT. Why they didn't call the new model the NEXT and leave ECO alone is beyond me!
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Where's the Next fit in?
If you have a ECO like mine WITHOUT the digital registration and digital head read out, you have what they now are calling the NEXT. Why they didn't call the new model the NEXT and leave ECO alone is beyond me!
Sounds perfect. The digital readout on ours is counter intuitive, gimme verniers.
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Does the Next have a digital readout for printstroke and floodstroke speed?
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Does the Next have a digital readout for printstroke and floodstroke speed?
Not sure on that but we have both (You/Eco) and I personally prefer the analog knobs on the You.
A dial adjustment with digital readout would be ideal. Beeping buttons gets beeping old.
I can second the praise of the green machines. Mechanically simple, robust, extremely versatile.
Replace the center shaft on a 4 year old dback? Not me fella.
Chaindex!
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I might never own a Roq but from all the talk those machines are NICE! and going to give M&R a run for the money, talking with a buddy the other day and he was at a shop where someone had installed a Roq, he was telling me you could hardly hear the machine running 8)
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Analog controls are superior.
Take that with a grain of salt. I also listen to vinyl and have recently been anxious about purchasing my first vehicle mfg past 1989.
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Analog controls are superior.
Take that with a grain of salt. I also listen to vinyl and have recently been anxious about purchasing my first vehicle mfg past 1989.
He also accesses this site via a dial up connection on his rotary dial phone.... ;D ;D
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Analog controls are superior.
Take that with a grain of salt. I also listen to vinyl and have recently been anxious about purchasing my first vehicle mfg past 1989.
He also accesses this site via a dial up connection on his rotary dial phone.... ;D ;D
Sounds like an upgrade compared to the cable internet around these parts.
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I am deciding between at ROQ NEXT 10 color and a M&R Cobra 10 color. What do you recommend? Cheers, Jim Morris jimcmorris@gmailcom
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Forty years with M&R and now the past two with ROQ. Love them, although theres no such thing as a perfect press that suits everyones needs. Withe ECO and YOU, the index drive is Geneva. The next uses a chain drive (more on that later). Main con with the former two uses a traffic light tower to tell the op when the pallet is in lock position. Seems like a simple mechanical spring loaded pin to set it in the required locking position without having to keep your eye on the tower would be an affordable upgrade. Also, on my machines at least, often when you break a safety bar you may have to walk over to the bar, reset, and back to the main to continue. Not always, it depends on the sequence of actions. Too many footprints. The pallet lock is spring lock and allows for multiple position settings however over time, the small nuts can loosen and be a bit of a pain to replace (if they fall off, they can be difficult to find). On my ECO, we have to replace squeegee chop solenoids twice and need to do it again. This requires removing the print arm as it is not easily accessible. Not for the timid.
That said, they are not over engineered and super easy to train new ops. Squeegee travel simple and manually controlled without kipps.
Back to the indexers. The Geneva allows the op to free wheel the pallets using the tower while the Next chain drive uses the half index mode and allows the op to send the pallet from head one to head 8 etc. without stopping at each station. Huge benefit on larger machines.
Also the Next has hugely upgraded analog main menu with no sub menues.
Interesting to know that M&R makes a lesser known press called the Copperhead which is basically a blue ROQ.
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Has anyone ever seen or have one of the Copperheads? Do they sell them in the US? They only intrigue me as they have a much smaller footprint than say a Cobra or Sportsman. Over 2 feet in diameter in some cases. Our building is long and skinny and I am limited by space. Our two presses now are jammed in and Id love to have a press with more colors. There is very little out there on them besides what's on the MR site.
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I got a couple Copperheads out in the wild. Have a couple more going out. It's made in India by DNN, which from my understanding is the largest press manufacturer in the world (could be wrong). After running a Roq for 10 years, I can say it's a great press, easy to run, easy to train a new operator, easy to set up. To me it brings the best of both worlds together. I'm a big fan. The Cobra is my favorite press out there right now, but for the money, Copperhead is pretty sweet. I'd say it's on par with a Sportsman, just built like a Roq (Euro design).