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Computers and Software => Raster and Vector Manipulation Programs, and How to Do Stuff in Them. => Topic started by: jesterapparel on May 02, 2011, 12:25:44 PM

Title: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: jesterapparel on May 02, 2011, 12:25:44 PM
Wondering is I upgrade from x3 to x5, if it would open CS5.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: blue moon on May 02, 2011, 12:51:29 PM
I just tried to open CS4 and it worked fine. Can't tell about the CS5 . . .

pierre
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Frog on May 02, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
I'd guess probably, but have to assume that you will have the same issues with "compression" (and the usual text to outlines and such).

There is always the official Corel Forum (http://coreldraw.com/forums/) for this kind of question as well.
Please report back.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: squeezee on May 02, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
You can always open the CS5 file with a pdf reader such as Acrobat and save a copy which Corel will import.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
My guess is No....unless you're very lucky.
X5 came out BEFORE CS5.
Whether they made any modifications in the X5 update, I can't say.


Lately, I haven't even been wasting my time with trying to import into Corel first or mucking with pdf's etc.
I open the file in CS5 so I'm certain what it looks like and then bring it back into Corel.

Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Frog on May 15, 2011, 02:09:07 PM

My guess is No....unless you're very lucky.
X5 came out BEFORE CS5.
Whether they made any modifications in the X5 update, I can't say.


Lately, I haven't even been wasting my time with trying to import into Corel first or mucking with pdf's etc.
I open the file in CS5 so I'm certain what it looks like and then bring it back into Corel.



It sounds like you have the means and ability to actually try, so don't guess, check it out and give us the definitive poop when you get a few minutes!
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: virgil427 on May 15, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
Just looking in the corel book , corel supports cs4 , unless theres an update on thier site that Ive missed.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 04:48:42 PM
Ah, there's the rub, my dear.
I have the means and the ability..................it's the 'time' thing that's a kick in the butt!  ;D
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Frog on May 15, 2011, 06:14:12 PM
C'mon make a simple circle in CS5 and fill it with a crazy Adobe style fill and see what happens in X5
Take your laptop with you the next time you visit the little girl's room lol!
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
Oh sure, put the blame on me
I don't think a simple shape would be a good test
If  I do that and it works, then it doesn't work when you have a file with some substance, you're gonna' say ......oh, but DIANE said it would work!

On the other hand, are you thinking that maybe any CS5 file, no matter how simple may not work?
There's a point

Okay, hold on
Let's see if a can make a circle in Illy......a feat in itself!
....be back
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 06:46:19 PM
Okee dokee
I made 2 rectangles in CS5
Saved the file as CS5 ai file WITHOUT compression

I first tried my handy dandy paste from Illy macro.....worked fine.
Then I tried a simple straight import......also worked fine.


So I guess with some files, at least, it works just dandy

Does anyone have a "real" file they know for a fact was created in CS5 for me to try?


Diane
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Frog on May 15, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
Wait a second. I said fill it Adobe style. No gradient made up of 127 slivers is simple!  ;D
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Oh shoot, you want a real, Adobe file?
Yikes
Now you're pushing it
Hold on again......Yankees are ticking me off, anyway
......be right back
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 15, 2011, 08:57:42 PM
well, look at this
wonders never cease, I guess
Attached is a screen shot of an Adope(y) CS5 gradient box both copy/pasted and imported into CS5
Both came into Corel and both displayed an accurate gradient.


I could have lost a (sizeable) bet on this one.


Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: ftembroidery on May 16, 2011, 01:50:23 AM
Isn't Corel simply wonderful?
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Sbrem on May 16, 2011, 11:40:17 AM
As a non-Corel user (Mac), why wouldn't someone with Illy not finish in Illy, as opposed to importing into CD? Not trying to start a CD vs. Illy war, just curious. We're all Illy, all the time, never receive CD files from anybody (well, once a year, maybe) so if we do get one, I'll have one of of my compatriots here convert to .eps for me, and away we go. Now to be fair, I've been using Illy for the last 20 years, so I always know how to get what I need out of it; I get the feeling some of us get Illy to be able to open the file to convert to something CD with deal with. Is it a matter of being so comfy with CD that it's just easier than learning another program's in and outs? I did buy CD 6 (a Mac version, never updated) and start to work with it, but it was so different, that it wasn't worth my time to continue with it, especially since I never got CD files to have to work on. Same thing, only the other direction?

Steve
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: cyw on May 16, 2011, 12:28:22 PM
I would agree, Steve.
We all work with what we're more comfortable with.
No wars
No Illy vs Corel debate

I think that most of us that use Corel just wish that the 2 programs could Play Nice with each other.
From our vantage point, it sometimes feels the scales are tilted.
Converting a cdr file to eps, pdf or an ai  file is a simple process.
Bringing in an ai or eps file or sometimes even pdf .................is totally different.

Just how I see it, anyway.


Diane
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Command-Z on May 16, 2011, 12:55:17 PM
I've been out of the loop regarding going between the two programs for a few years now. I use Illustrator CS3 on my rig still... but I remember these problems from way back.

The compatibility issues between these software aren't vector problems, but bitmap effects problems.... gradients, gradient meshes, blends, transparencies, etc. For a while there, it seemed that PDF was the answer. That must have changed a version or two back?

In the past, it was always better to IMPORT an EPS or AI file into Draw, rather than just OPEN it. Is this still the case?

At any rate, I've found that for any vector artwork that is heavy with gradients or blends, the best way to sep it is to bring it into Photoshop. Better white base, easier-to-make White highlights and no bogging down the printer with huge files. Plus, better control of color overlap in the gradient areas.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Frog on May 16, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
I've been out of the loop regarding going between the two programs for a few years now. I use Illustrator CS3 on my rig still... but I remember these problems from way back.

The compatibility issues between these software aren't vector problems, but bitmap effects problems.... gradients, gradient meshes, blends, transparencies, etc. For a while there, it seemed that PDF was the answer. That must have changed a version or two back?

In the past, it was always better to IMPORT an EPS or AI file into Draw, rather than just OPEN it. Is this still the case?

At any rate, I've found that for any vector artwork that is heavy with gradients or blends, the best way to sep it is to bring it into Photoshop. Better white base, easier-to-make White highlights and no bogging down the printer with huge files. Plus, better control of color overlap in the gradient areas.

Import is all that works for most "alien" files types.
PDF may be the exception, and pdf's can be iffy depending on how they were created as well. For instance, fonts still need to be converted.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Sbrem on May 16, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
I've been out of the loop regarding going between the two programs for a few years now. I use Illustrator CS3 on my rig still... but I remember these problems from way back.

The compatibility issues between these software aren't vector problems, but bitmap effects problems.... gradients, gradient meshes, blends, transparencies, etc. For a while there, it seemed that PDF was the answer. That must have changed a version or two back?

In the past, it was always better to IMPORT an EPS or AI file into Draw, rather than just OPEN it. Is this still the case?

At any rate, I've found that for any vector artwork that is heavy with gradients or blends, the best way to sep it is to bring it into Photoshop. Better white base, easier-to-make White highlights and no bogging down the printer with huge files. Plus, better control of color overlap in the gradient areas.

Yes, I've imported more than one crazy vector file into Photoshop, you know the ones that look simple but have a million shapes and masks...

Steve
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: DraginInk on July 08, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
At any rate, I've found that for any vector artwork that is heavy with gradients or blends, the best way to sep it is to bring it into Photoshop. Better white base, easier-to-make White highlights and no bogging down the printer with huge files. Plus, better control of color overlap in the gradient areas.


DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING

I used to fight it.... These days if I don't get a file to transfer on the first try.... I'll bust out the Photoshop. Done. And with the pluses mentioned.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Chadwick on July 08, 2011, 08:27:09 PM
As Doug said, if something's giving me grief,
it's STRAIGHT TO RASTER WITH YOU! ( you miserable pos, etc, etc )

I often find that, it's not really the format that isn't compatible,
but the lack of understanding on the part of the creator of said file, who deserves the blame.

Since Illy added compression, that can cause some grief.
I think most Illy grief with Corel files was to do with this as well, since compression was/is default.

Still, there's lots of bad vector files out there, regardless of format.
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: Sbrem on July 08, 2011, 10:30:12 PM
I love the files that look simple, until you go to wireframe and see the demons within. Flatten transparency does real well with some of these...

Steve
Title: Re: Will Corel x5 open AI CS5?
Post by: thinkdesign on July 09, 2011, 01:23:41 AM
I still have to save all my AI files to version 88 for the person the prints my vinyl. I'll have to check with her to see what version of cdr she uses. Maybe I can save a step.