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Title: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 16, 2019, 10:07:59 AM
Just ordered an M&R 18/20 Gauntlet 3 with 4 x Chilli DX Flashes. Looking forward to it. Will be a fun transformation going to a 2 auto shop. Ill try to document the install with pictures and video.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Ross_S on September 16, 2019, 10:51:16 AM
Your going to wonder why you didn't order it years ago.  About a 30' diameter on that machine?

Ross
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 16, 2019, 10:59:21 AM
Your going to wonder why you didn't order it years ago.  About a 30' diameter on that machine?

Ross

Excited about it, our customer and artists can't seem to stop adding colors to art so it's needed. It's only about 21'
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Dottonedan on September 16, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
Awesome!  We love ours. We have the same press. Three Chili's.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Homer on September 16, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
Pro Tip : skateboards for employees = great Christmas gift...you'll need one to get around that thing...Or a golf cart. ;D

Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: mk162 on September 16, 2019, 11:34:05 AM
Pro Tip : skateboards for employees = great Christmas gift...you'll need one to get around that thing...Or a golf cart. ;D

EFF that, brandt should buy everyone segways.  Including me.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: 3Deep on September 16, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
Good deal Brandt that's a big bump in production and one trip around the press  Congrats!!!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: ffokazak on September 16, 2019, 01:00:56 PM
You didn't go with the oval?
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 16, 2019, 01:43:15 PM
You didn't go with the oval?

No, doesn't fit our space as ideal as round press does, well at least not without moving dryer and current press. Just wasn't worth putting 2 more holes in the roof and such.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: 1964GN on September 16, 2019, 05:34:13 PM
Congrats! You can never have too many colors :)
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Post by: Orion on September 16, 2019, 08:00:55 PM
Nice! I wanna see a video of that in action at your shop. Congrats!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Admiral on September 17, 2019, 11:46:50 AM
Same press, same 4 flash units.  It's great!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: dirkdiggler on September 17, 2019, 07:02:10 PM
nice!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 19, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
Press ships next week. :D
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: cbjamel on September 19, 2019, 02:03:48 PM
Press ships next week. :D
Wow that was quick, are you ready for it?

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Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 19, 2019, 02:48:48 PM
Press ships next week. :D
Wow that was quick, are you ready for it?

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Kinda. LOL
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: cbjamel on September 19, 2019, 02:52:09 PM
I thought that might be. lol been there done that on our mini sprint came day early. wasn't ready.

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Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 19, 2019, 03:55:34 PM
I thought that might be. lol been there done that on our mini sprint came day early. wasn't ready.

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The good news is we dont really have a lot to get ready. Move a few things and then the elect/air guy need to drop those cables when we have press position determined.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on September 20, 2019, 05:43:39 PM
You need a photo of that MClaren next to the G3. I'm not sure whats sexier. Those are just super bad ass presses.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 23, 2019, 07:10:13 AM
You need a photo of that MClaren next to the G3. I'm not sure whats sexier. Those are just super bad ass presses.

That'd be hard, I traded the Mclaren a month or so ago for a new Porsche GT3RS. lol
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on September 23, 2019, 02:06:21 PM
You need a photo of that MClaren next to the G3. I'm not sure whats sexier. Those are just super bad ass presses.

That'd be hard, I traded the Mclaren a month or so ago for a new Porsche GT3RS. lol

Either way I'm going with the G3.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 23, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
You need a photo of that MClaren next to the G3. I'm not sure whats sexier. Those are just super bad ass presses.

That'd be hard, I traded the Mclaren a month or so ago for a new Porsche GT3RS. lol

Either way I'm going with the G3.

Here is the current set up pre-second press.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on September 23, 2019, 02:51:09 PM
so I am assuming you relayed out the entire operation to accommodate the new press? Are you thinking about adding a split belt? You will find when your doing this so many things will change for the better besides the press. This is the perfect time to evaluate the FLOW of the entire operation. That G3 is a serious press that's going to change the entire level of your operation in all aspects. The logistic of staging etc are very very important going from 1 press to multiple. I just completed process mapping in all dept's here with pain points etc. Doing the mapping really gave me a clearer view of the operation.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 23, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
so I am assuming you relayed out the entire operation to accommodate the new press? Are you thinking about adding a split belt? You will find when your doing this so many things will change for the better besides the press. This is the perfect time to evaluate the FLOW of the entire operation. That G3 is a serious press that's going to change the entire level of your operation in all aspects. The logistic of staging etc are very very important going from 1 press to multiple. I just completed process mapping in all dept's here with pain points etc. Doing the mapping really gave me a clearer view of the operation.

No plans for split belt, we don't use discharge or water based inks and basically 99% of our jobs wouldn't require a different belt speed from another really. In the beginning we wont really be using both presses much together, we will likely start off by setting up one press while another is in production, then flip to the other while the other is being broken down and set up for the next job. Probably pick up a couple jobs a day just doing that. More than anything initially our second press being so much larger is to cut down on most any chance of needing to revolver any jobs. We print many 8-9-10 color jobs on our 12 color and at times that gets tricky and we sometimes have to revolver a job to get best results on those 8+ color jobs.

We did change our flow, we used to receive and ship on the same side of the building, imagine a U basically for flow. Now we will be shipping and receiving on opposite sides and staging will take place on one side where we receive and then as they come out of the dryer shipping will take place (or repeat for multiple print locations).

Also area you see the cars sitting now, will likely soon become a dedicated pre-press area. We are getting quotes now for building that area out.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on September 23, 2019, 03:31:22 PM
so I am assuming you relayed out the entire operation to accommodate the new press? Are you thinking about adding a split belt? You will find when your doing this so many things will change for the better besides the press. This is the perfect time to evaluate the FLOW of the entire operation. That G3 is a serious press that's going to change the entire level of your operation in all aspects. The logistic of staging etc are very very important going from 1 press to multiple. I just completed process mapping in all dept's here with pain points etc. Doing the mapping really gave me a clearer view of the operation.

No plans for split belt, we don't use discharge or water based inks and basically 99% of our jobs wouldn't require a different belt speed from another really. In the beginning we wont really be using both presses much together, we will likely start off by setting up one press while another is in production, then flip to the other while the other is being broken down and set up for the next job. Probably pick up a couple jobs a day just doing that. More than anything initially our second press being so much larger is to cut down on most any chance of needing to revolver any jobs. We print many 8-9-10 color jobs on our 12 color and at times that gets tricky and we sometimes have to revolver a job to get best results on those 8+ color jobs.

We did change our flow, we used to receive and ship on the same side of the building, imagine a U basically for flow. Now we will be shipping and receiving on opposite sides and staging will take place on one side where we receive and then as they come out of the dryer shipping will take place (or repeat for multiple print locations).

Also area you see the cars sitting now, will likely soon become a dedicated pre-press area. We are getting quotes now for building that area out.

Good stuff man!!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: LuckyFlyinROUSH on September 27, 2019, 08:31:47 PM
I think you should just post pics of your cars. Screw the press.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 30, 2019, 06:44:38 AM
Lot of them on my Instagram/facebook.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69870424_10158864342235884_2183163972847403008_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQl6_YpEaWDZtr0L8eqYdwSCPw4rd2kZ7X9mE7dtTi9Wyp40Et2dzots3AeIqsyYX_0&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=62ef3ba4b2363537bb03ae5688032a88&oe=5E396FE5)
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: 3Deep on September 30, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
Can't miss that LOL GREEN!!!!!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on October 01, 2019, 08:35:42 AM
Arrived yesterday, we are moving along now.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 26, 2019, 01:30:05 PM
I realized today I never posted any finished pictures. Here is a couple.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: BP on November 26, 2019, 02:46:59 PM
Love the BLUE shop!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on November 26, 2019, 03:17:50 PM
how do you like the LED lights on the printheads? 
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 26, 2019, 03:54:24 PM
how do you like the LED lights on the printheads?

It was a nice surprise, wasn't aware it was coming with them. Handy for sure!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: Nation03 on November 27, 2019, 07:47:04 AM
Wow that's awesome! I look at a press that big and gotta wonder, how do you keep that thing clean? I feel like it takes me forever to clean up my 6 color Diamondback. I can only imagine what it would take to keep that bad boy lint free haha
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 27, 2019, 08:18:17 AM
Wow that's awesome! I look at a press that big and gotta wonder, how do you keep that thing clean? I feel like it takes me forever to clean up my 6 color Diamondback. I can only imagine what it would take to keep that bad boy lint free haha

We've not at too much trouble staying clean since we don't use spray tact.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: mk162 on November 27, 2019, 10:18:20 AM
Where are the LEDs?
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: 3Deep on November 27, 2019, 11:01:45 AM
Nice press, one trip around for sure now ;D
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: mimosatexas on November 27, 2019, 11:08:22 AM
So we have been planning to get a G3 for a while, and get keys to our new 22k sq ft place on dec 2nd, so we are going to be buying it like NOW!  Not to derail this thread, but I had 2 questions related to the press/flashes and was hoping for some clarity.  What is the absolute max print stroke?  M&R says 22", but i know some guys eek out a little more on some other presses.  Also, for the flashes, I was originally thinking Chili D 20x24, but wonder if we should do with the DX, and if we should go with 20x28 instead "just in case".  Any thoughts?

Grats on the new press!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 27, 2019, 11:24:33 AM
So we have been planning to get a G3 for a while, and get keys to our new 22k sq ft place on dec 2nd, so we are going to be buying it like NOW!  Not to derail this thread, but I had 2 questions related to the press/flashes and was hoping for some clarity.  What is the absolute max print stroke?  M&R says 22", but i know some guys eek out a little more on some other presses.  Also, for the flashes, I was originally thinking Chili D 20x24, but wonder if we should do with the DX, and if we should go with 20x28 instead "just in case".  Any thoughts?

Grats on the new press!

I believe it has the same stroke as my Ch3D listed at 22" and we've done 23" before. Don't believe we've ever tried to go beyond that on a 23x31.

We went Chilli DX and so far so good. We have one of the Chilli D on our CH3D, wasn't a lot more to go DX. Something like $500 per flash. So nothing when you are into a press this size and such.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: bimmridder on November 27, 2019, 11:45:54 AM
I was going to go with the DX as well, but I decided not to. Some of my guys just struggle running a press, much less adding in controlling a flash. I just don't trust them. If you're a small shop or have seasoned veterans you can trust, the DX is nice. Also, I left print heads out for the flashes. We never move our flashes so why pay for a print head that will never be used. That made having a DX less possible, or at minimum would have been a programming problem at M&R. No head to plug the DX into doesn't work.
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: mimosatexas on November 27, 2019, 11:47:26 AM
gotcha.  thanks guys!
Title: Re: New Press Incoming.
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 27, 2019, 11:53:08 AM
That should have read 25x36 screen. I am already on vacation apparently.