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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Mark @ Hurricane Printing on May 27, 2016, 08:43:46 AM
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Got a job today that wants green and white ink on nylon bags...I have never printed on nylon before..what kind of ink do I use? I do have a poly white ink...can i use a poly on nylon?
and what about the curing process? Send them thru the dryer??
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we use nylobond additive from union and mix it with our regular plastisol. cures at a bit lower temp, maybe around 325 i think. we've never had an issue with it coming off.
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Xenon has an ink designed for Nylon. Comes in colors and ranges in price from $40 - $72 per gallon. Most colors are under $55.
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we use nylobond additive from union and mix it with our regular plastisol. cures at a bit lower temp, maybe around 325 i think. we've never had an issue with it coming off.
The additive makes the ink cure over about 48 hours, so if you just mix it in and don't heat it up the ink will still cure. We cure it so it is dry to the touch, won't rub off / mark up anything and it will cure the rest of the way on it's own. You have to discard any excess ink and cleanup everything afterwords.
Not sure on doing 2 colors on nylon, we only ever do 1.
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We use Nazdar DA series inks. They generally air cure but you can accelerate the curing time by sending them through the dryer at very low temperatures.
https://www.nazdar.com/en-us/P/3331/DA-Nylon-and-Flock-Screen-Ink (https://www.nazdar.com/en-us/P/3331/DA-Nylon-and-Flock-Screen-Ink)
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I used the nylon inks from one stroke not too long ago and they kick major ass. pricey though compared to just adding nylobond, but I hate that nylobond makes the ink chalky trash after a few hours.
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chalky trash after a few hours
When that happens , it may be due to to much nylon bond, but yeah it won't last long, we only mix a little at a time.
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OneStroke Versamax white. NO additives, no pre wipe, and it STAYS on. You can use that same white on poly, spandex, compression shirts ect. Great ink!
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if only they were serious about getting it out there, to all of us.
I've been bitching for years about them pulling out of this area 20 years ago!
It's a tough sell to someone like me to pay major shipping charges and it take a week when I used to get it locally. Even if it shipped, it was one day rather than a week!
But enough complaining, yep, good inks.
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$134.00 for a gallon of white shipped to me, no matter how good it is that is not worth it. But they do offer a money back guarantee!!
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One Stroke is only 90 miles from us. We have switched over to their low
temp inks. Everybody here like to print with it.
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Go with $10 nylobond, quick flash power dry, get'em out!
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Go with $10 nylobond, quick flash power dry, get'em out!
and store it upside down in the fridge.
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$134.00 for a gallon of white shipped to me, no matter how good it is that is not worth it. But they do offer a money back guarantee!!
That`s nothing compared to one Gallon of Unions improved glow in the dark ink. It glows for a good 15 minutes but sets you back $550.
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There cost is worth it in its performance, and then fact that you won't waste ink with a nylobond additive.
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$134.00 for a gallon of white shipped to me, no matter how good it is that is not worth it. But they do offer a money back guarantee!!
Depending on the print size I would suggest calculating how much ink your putting on the shirt to determine the price of ink per print. The difference can be pennies between the two inks which in gallons can vary what is a lot but for me it's about the value I can get out of the ink. The ink might cost more but by the time you have to mix catalyst, possible chance the cheaper ink might print slower, the ink might make printing more difficult, reclaim harder, etc etc etc I feel when looking at ink it's so much more about the value of it and what it can do to help you print easier, better, and quicker. My opinion but don't overlook the value outside of the initial price.
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Xenon's white for this is $46 per gallon
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Lime Kelly or Forest is $58 per gallon
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Got a job today that wants green and white ink on nylon bags...I have never printed on nylon before..what kind of ink do I use? I do have a poly white ink...can i use a poly on nylon?
and what about the curing process? Send them thru the dryer??
Mark: I’m assuming that these bags are not a one-time throw away promo items. If these bags are intended for long term use the print that you apply has to be durable. In this application saving a few pennies or even a dollar on ink can be false economy. There are a bunch of different inks that might work on Nylon with decent results, and at least one that will definitely produce great results.
the International Coatings 900 series was designed from the ground-up especially for screen-printing onto hard to decorate nylon fabrics. This ink when used with the its companion catalyst provides exceptional print performance and printability and durability. Email or PM me your address and contact information and I’ll send you a (1) Qt. of White, (1) Qt. of Kelly Green and (8) Oz of catalyst.
All I’ll ask in return is for you to test out the inks, then return to this thread and provide review of your results.