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Title: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: kingscreen on November 18, 2015, 10:10:08 AM
If you had to create a design of fire using only 3 colors, what would your go-to Pantone colors be?
Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on November 18, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
we dont use pantone colors but instead use Union Maxopaque lemon yellow, Union Maxopaque bright red, Union Maxopaque orange.

ever since our artist saw how the inks looked on and off the white base (on dark colors) - they always go for these colors.  most times its just the lemon and bright red, but ive seen them use the orange a few times.

i tried using wilflex amazing base and pantones, but they still went back to the union Maxopaques
Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: Screen Dan on November 18, 2015, 10:40:44 AM
Same here.  We use whatever the QCM equivalent of Wilflex National Red, Dolphin Orange and Lemon Yellow is.  Sounds like pretty much the same deal.
Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: jvanick on November 18, 2015, 11:27:37 AM
an orangey red (like a 186)
and a golden yellow (like a 108)

this was done with 2 screens, discharge (186 and 108)
(http://www.oaknet.com/gallery/var/resizes/Screen-Printing/Samples/IMG_4097.jpg?m=1379464044)




Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: DannyGruninger on November 18, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
PMS 485 w/ 20% halftone base, PMS 109 w/ 10% halftone base..... No orange needed but I would use 151 w/ 20% base if you wanted the orange





Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: Colin on November 18, 2015, 12:01:57 PM
Danny:

Are you saying you reduced the opacity of the PMS colors?

Whose mixing system did you use and what pigment strength/load do you use?

I do things similarly when I want better color blending from fewer colors. 

Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: kingscreen on November 18, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
Thanks for all the recommendations, everyone!
Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: DannyGruninger on November 18, 2015, 01:56:54 PM
Danny:

Are you saying you reduced the opacity of the PMS colors?

Whose mixing system did you use and what pigment strength/load do you use?

I do things similarly when I want better color blending from fewer colors.

Correct, clear halftone base to pull the opacity of the top colors back to allow better blending. I'm using the ICC 7500 series color mixing system in my shop. As for pigment load since we are using a finished ink mixing system whatever formula it gives us is what we mix then we base back from there. For our sim process stuff we have 3 different reds in my shop with different ratios of base to allow for a more translucent clean color. Having the base a real strong optically bright white is key though as the clear base does pull the opacity back some.





Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: celtic on November 20, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
NICE print, Danny! 
I use the IC ultra concentrated 7500 system too. Great one.
Thanks for the added info and again, sweet print/design.
Title: Re: Pantone colors for fire?
Post by: kingscreen on November 21, 2015, 08:39:15 AM
Here's my final print.  Ended up going with custom formulas and was happy with the result.

Edit: Should mention that the customer wanted a more orange than red flame.