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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: IntegrityShirts on September 04, 2015, 12:19:09 PM

Title: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on September 04, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
Anyone done it? Is that normal? I know printing colors on top of DC white is problematic. But I'm trying to think of why a wb white opaque ink couldn't be printed on top of a 100% DC White base? I'm dealing with NL 6210 turquoise blend shirts thrown in with a larger run of charcoal 6210's that I'm doing DC white on. Thanks
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: ericheartsu on September 04, 2015, 12:34:21 PM
it's my understanding, that the White DC, will not hold the ink on top of it, and it'll wash right off.

Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: tonypep on September 04, 2015, 12:36:56 PM
Who told you that Eric? ;)
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: ericheartsu on September 04, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
believe it or not Tony, I've learned a thing or two, about DC and WB on this message board
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: tonypep on September 04, 2015, 12:50:15 PM
Wait...what?
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: brandon on September 04, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
We print white water base on top of a 50/50 discharge base all the time. HSA white to be specific on top of a 50% clear discharge base / 50% white discharge base. Works beautifully. Many, many shirts printed this way and all of our clients love it. Very bright, and very smooth / soft
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: brandon on September 04, 2015, 01:02:31 PM
But we have never printed on top of a 100% white discharge base. No need to and that costs more anyway.
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: ericheartsu on September 04, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
We print white water base on top of a 50/50 discharge base all the time. HSA white to be specific on top of a 50% clear discharge base / 50% white discharge base. Works beautifully. Many, many shirts printed this way and all of our clients love it. Very bright, and very smooth / soft

woah really? the 50% isn't to much white?
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on September 04, 2015, 01:27:45 PM
We print white water base on top of a 50/50 discharge base all the time. HSA white to be specific on top of a 50% clear discharge base / 50% white discharge base. Works beautifully. Many, many shirts printed this way and all of our clients love it. Very bright, and very smooth / soft

Cool. That's good to know. If I could clean out the 100% dc white and put in a 50/50 or lower mix added with a straght wb screen I'd be happy with that. Have you done wash tests with that combo? Do you flash the base? Thanks!
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: brandon on September 04, 2015, 06:05:47 PM
We print white water base on top of a 50/50 discharge base all the time. HSA white to be specific on top of a 50% clear discharge base / 50% white discharge base. Works beautifully. Many, many shirts printed this way and all of our clients love it. Very bright, and very smooth / soft

woah really? the 50% isn't to much white?

No, we have done thousands and thousands this way. Multiple jobs, multiple runs, multiple wash tests. I though this way common knowledge! When client wants "bling white" it is what we go for without fail. Of course our go to shirt is 100% Cotton Gildan 2000 or Gildan 5000 though. Works every time.
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: TCT on September 04, 2015, 07:00:36 PM
Just ran a job like this today. The 60/40 was killing us! We had 3 HSA whites and that worked, but there was a lot of VERY fine lines and some grew closed with 3 whites. Magna DC white as a base, Matsui white on top, came out great!
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: SI on December 11, 2015, 05:49:55 PM
Started experimenting with DC today, what is the benefit of printing 50/50 with a WB white on top, compared to just a 100% white DC?  Trying to find this answer elsewhere in the forums with no luck
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: brandon on December 11, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
As your runs get longer and say you have 300 black blanks from country A and 500 from country B and 75 from country C they will discharge differently. The HSA on top being a very opaque ink will make them more uniform across the board.
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: SI on December 11, 2015, 07:11:50 PM
That makes sense, but if i were doing just 50 shirts of same brand and country, would a straight Magna DC white be ok instead of mixing with a clear?
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: brandon on December 11, 2015, 07:34:29 PM
Just depends on your clients definition of what white is.
Title: Re: WB white ink on top of a WHITE DC base?
Post by: SI on December 14, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Brandon just wondering if you flash the base on this?  Ran some tests on 100% DC white today, not as bright as i would like, HSA white is on order!